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Old 07-21-2014, 05:33 PM   #1275
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I'll let you know how it compares to my ZL1 this Thursday. I'm scheduled on the 23rd for the media test drive.
Yes. That is going to be interesting.
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Old 07-21-2014, 11:19 PM   #1276
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118mph in 8600' d/a is hauling the mail



that overweight piece of shit will never be able to... ahh screw it, yes it will. lol@haters
If it did 118mph in 8600 DA then that is F'ing fantastic for a bone stock car. The person who posted that on here was probably trying to hate on it but he ended up proving that it is truly a bad ass.
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Old 07-21-2014, 11:31 PM   #1277
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another Video of the 118mph 12.1 run
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Old 07-21-2014, 11:59 PM   #1278
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another Video of the 118mph 12.1 run
It seems there never has been a better time then now for pony cars. That is a great run.
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Old 07-22-2014, 11:54 AM   #1279
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here is the 392 Scat Pack RT driving around

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Old 07-22-2014, 12:06 PM   #1280
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here is the 392 Scat Pack RT driving around

damn! That sounds awesome! must have the cutout opened up which is even more awesome that they have them from the factory.
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Old 07-22-2014, 12:27 PM   #1281
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damn! That sounds awesome! must have the cutout opened up which is even more awesome that they have them from the factory.
Indeed! but there are no cutouts/dumps from the factory. They do have active exhaust though.
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Old 07-22-2014, 12:46 PM   #1282
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A truck version of the 392 has just been added to the RAM arsenal...410 hp and big torque.
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Old 07-22-2014, 01:16 PM   #1283
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From Car & Driver Mag:

"We did appreciate, however, the adjustable suspension, which made what could have been a lumpy ride into a serene one. And the exhaust note, which grows more raucous the deeper one dips into the gas, fades into the background so as not to annoy during extended freeway stints. In all, the Challenger is a much better cruiser than before, which is good since—even with the aforementioned improvements—it’s still no match for the Camaro or Mustang when the road goes all bendy."

This confirms my feeling that Dodge didn't really set out to compete with the Z/28 and ZL1, because SRT didn't really concentrate too much on their suspension and it's ability for road courses.
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Old 07-22-2014, 01:19 PM   #1284
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Posted this in the "Horsepower Wars" thread this morning...

First drive reviews rolling in. Pretty much what I anticipated with regard to handling. I suspect the 12 second quarter miles are what happens when launch control isn't used.
Lacking the sharp reflexes of the Camaro ZL1 and the hair-trigger insanity of the Mustang GT500, the Hellcat shows best on the street, with its gobs of tractable power, a comfortable interior, and its full-size Hot Wheels styling.
-Car and Driver

The car leans heavily as we enter turns, but it's not sloppy...But yeah, man, it drives like a muscle car. It's heavy and it swings through corners with the leading edge of the bulging hood leaning low. Forget delicate work: That would be like whittling with a pole axe.
-Automobile Magazine

Not surprisingly, the Hellcat's tail end started to wag. Smooth brake and throttle inputs are a must...After our run, the app revealed a 0-60 mph time of 4.1 seconds and a quarter-mile time of 12 seconds at 117 mph...They [buyers] might, however, wish for more when it comes to distinguishable visual treatments that set the car apart from the 392.
-MotorTrend

Instead of seeming like it’s going to tip, the body stays flat enough to inspire a little confidence, letting the 9.5-inch-wide Pirellis out back do their job...But unlike the big-power Camaros and Mustangs, the muscliest Challenger doesn’t have a ton of styling differentiation compared to a base V6 car.
-Road&Track

The Challenger gets a lot of grief for its weight, and at 4,449 pounds, the 2015 Challenger is a heavy car. You can feel this while driving, it’s a pleasant thing on the highway, giving the car a solid, smooth ride, even in the firmest “Track” mode setting of the three-way adjustable suspension. In corners, the heft of the car is noticeable, especially if you’re used to a lighter machine, but the Challenger handles well...We brought the car to barely off-idle (about 1,200 rpm) and applied the throttle with the same caution as you’d use while walking barefoot in the dark through a room full of Legos. We didn’t have the car fully floored until after the second gear shift. Result? 12 flat at 118 mph.
-Hot Rod Magazine

The long, wide coupe still has a lot of body to be piloted from corner to corner on the really tight sections of the road, but the truth is that it responded with neutrality and quickness at a moderate pace. "Nimble" wasn't the word that sprung to mind after turning more than 100 miles on public streets, but "confident" would be a fair one...Even with plenty of grip available most of the time, there's so much weight constantly desirous of changing direction that hustling the Dodge in the twisty bits left me either too slow or out of sorts upon exit. The steering is quick enough, but numb, which didn't help speed me up, either.
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It [Hellcat] is to the GT500 as the old SRT8 was to the Boss 302. It’s very quick, but it doesn’t feel noticeably quicker than a GT500. There’s a certain viciousness you get with a ZR1 or GT500 that is blunted by the Chally’s weight here. Big motor, pushing a big car, and as a result things feel under control...It really is just an SRT8 plus power. That’s what you really need to know about it...On the track, the brakes and tires proved sufficient to the task, as I’ll explain later today with numbers. Unlike the Shelby, it’s far from underbraked, for a ponycar. Don’t expect Corvette-level braking performance here. There ain’t a disc brake big enough for that unless it’s on a triple-seven Boeing.
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Old 07-22-2014, 01:35 PM   #1285
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another Video of the 118mph 12.1 run
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Old 07-22-2014, 01:41 PM   #1286
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If it did 118mph in 8600 DA then that is F'ing fantastic for a bone stock car. The person who posted that on here was probably trying to hate on it but he ended up proving that it is truly a bad ass.
Don't get too much wood from 118mph at 8600' DA.

Supercharged engines can do almost as good in thin air as they do in dense air.

Let's see, I ran 11.00@123? boosted at Bandimere, and 10.65@126? boosted at Houston Race Park. Over 10,000' difference in DA on the runs. Same 6420lb raceweight, same GT4202R.
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Old 07-22-2014, 01:48 PM   #1287
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Posted this in the "Horsepower Wars" thread this morning...

First drive reviews rolling in. Pretty much what I anticipated with regard to handling. I suspect the 12 second quarter miles are what happens when launch control isn't used.
Lacking the sharp reflexes of the Camaro ZL1 and the hair-trigger insanity of the Mustang GT500, the Hellcat shows best on the street, with its gobs of tractable power, a comfortable interior, and its full-size Hot Wheels styling.
-Car and Driver

The car leans heavily as we enter turns, but it's not sloppy...But yeah, man, it drives like a muscle car. It's heavy and it swings through corners with the leading edge of the bulging hood leaning low. Forget delicate work: That would be like whittling with a pole axe.
-Automobile Magazine

Not surprisingly, the Hellcat's tail end started to wag. Smooth brake and throttle inputs are a must...After our run, the app revealed a 0-60 mph time of 4.1 seconds and a quarter-mile time of 12 seconds at 117 mph...They [buyers] might, however, wish for more when it comes to distinguishable visual treatments that set the car apart from the 392.
-MotorTrend

Instead of seeming like it’s going to tip, the body stays flat enough to inspire a little confidence, letting the 9.5-inch-wide Pirellis out back do their job...But unlike the big-power Camaros and Mustangs, the muscliest Challenger doesn’t have a ton of styling differentiation compared to a base V6 car.
-Road&Track


The Challenger gets a lot of grief for its weight, and at 4,449 pounds, the 2015 Challenger is a heavy car. You can feel this while driving, it’s a pleasant thing on the highway, giving the car a solid, smooth ride, even in the firmest “Track” mode setting of the three-way adjustable suspension. In corners, the heft of the car is noticeable, especially if you’re used to a lighter machine, but the Challenger handles well...We brought the car to barely off-idle (about 1,200 rpm) and applied the throttle with the same caution as you’d use while walking barefoot in the dark through a room full of Legos. We didn’t have the car fully floored until after the second gear shift. Result? 12 flat at 118 mph.
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That's a complaint
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Old 07-22-2014, 02:02 PM   #1288
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That's a complaint
yeah, for some reason, there are a lot of people out there that like to have the better looking car, if they have the top of the line model. a lot of them even get offended if a lower model car takes parts of the top model and put it on their car. (not talking badges)
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