Possible money shift?

Reddy1LE · 02-27-2021, 05:26 PM

Yeah so I took my car out finally on a nice day. Did a nice pull and going from 2nd to 3rd I shifted somehow wrong and put it into 1st. 75 mph, I reviewed the PDR and on review I see the gear shift to 1st but the rev stops below 7k.

Not sure if I saved it because in that moment I got the car in the gate and the auto rev was on so I believed the car blipped by itself. Don't think I release the clutch.

Car feels fine. Motor doesn't sound weird @ idle and the transmission feels fine. Maybe the clutch has a bit more chatter then normal but I can't feel anything different.

Any other possible in your face signs I can look for? Compared it to my Buddys 1LE and I can't feel/see anything different. Had him drive around and he said my transmission felt better than his.

Did a money shift a long time ago on my prelude and that resulted in a new clutch right away and the car sounded like a bomb went off.

Warrior102 · 02-27-2021, 05:51 PM

A mechanical over rev can result in bent valves, believe me you'd know it. Sounds like you'll be fine don't sweat it.

SSDan · 02-27-2021, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Reddy1LE

Don't think I release the clutch.

If you didn't release the clutch - you should be fine. And if you did release the clutch I think you would have known it. Going into 1st at 75 mph would create a big noticeable jerk.

Good luck! And I know the feeling - just this morning I missed the 2-3 shift by releasing the clutch too early and got a little gear grind!

soloknight6 · 02-27-2021, 05:52 PM

If it seems fine, It's fine. Don't sweat it. Im pretty confident a stock LT1 can survive a couple seconds @ 7k RPM.

Reddy1LE · 02-27-2021, 05:57 PM

Thanks everyone. Yeah I feel like the biggest thing is clutch chatter being more than usual but probably just me.

Aragorn · 02-27-2021, 06:28 PM

Yep should be fine. Ironically I was missing 3rd also , but by shifting past it towards 5th. Making sure to shift with my palm now, straight and upwards if that makes sense.

BruceWayne1LE · 02-27-2021, 06:44 PM

Did it from 3rd to 2nd at 75 when I first got the car. Jerked hard but I only released the clutch slightly. That was 20k miles ago. I’m used to my offset MGW shifter on my foxbody. Took some getting used to

Reddy1LE · 02-27-2021, 08:11 PM

So I just checked PI Toolbox. I hit 6795 rpm. Hit it for 0.09 seconds.

Still freaking out lol

LT4Greg · 02-27-2021, 08:23 PM

No worries for you!

Petrol Head · 02-27-2021, 08:36 PM

If it starts and runs fine, nothing rough, and no check engine lights, you’re fine. This is something that’s either catastrophic and immediate or no issues at all. You really don’t have gray area on an accidental over-rev.

arpad_m · 02-27-2021, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Reddy1LE

So I just checked PI Toolbox. I hit 6795 rpm. Hit it for 0.09 seconds.

Still freaking out lol

That's okay, it lasted a very short while and wasn't north of 7k after all. My rpm limit is set to 6800 and extreme cutoff to 6900 with the A8.

s346k · 02-28-2021, 06:17 AM

i wouldn't be concerned with the rpm value near as much as the rapid accel to said value. from the sounds of it you barely engaged the clutch, no need to worry. i shift my stock internal bolt on car higher than 6795. i try to keep it out of the limiter but it does see 7k rpm quite frequently.

youre fine.

Big Lebowski · 02-28-2021, 07:12 AM

And people say, manual transmissions aren’t fun! Pffft.

OP - hope all works out. After your buddies comparative test drive I’d say your ok. PS - If you’re not, take it to the dealer but not sure if user error is covered so I might leave the miss-shift out of the conversation.

Petrol Head · 02-28-2021, 10:17 AM

Does anyone know how much data and for how long in both time and mileage is stored in the “black box”?

There was a time a few years ago it was only a rolling previous 8-10 seconds of basic vehicle operation on most cars but I have a feeling it’s much longer and more detailed now.

02-27-2021, 05:26 PM	#1
Reddy1LE Drives: 1SS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: NY Posts: 172	Possible money shift? Yeah so I took my car out finally on a nice day. Did a nice pull and going from 2nd to 3rd I shifted somehow wrong and put it into 1st. 75 mph, I reviewed the PDR and on review I see the gear shift to 1st but the rev stops below 7k. Not sure if I saved it because in that moment I got the car in the gate and the auto rev was on so I believed the car blipped by itself. Don't think I release the clutch. Car feels fine. Motor doesn't sound weird @ idle and the transmission feels fine. Maybe the clutch has a bit more chatter then normal but I can't feel anything different. Any other possible in your face signs I can look for? Compared it to my Buddys 1LE and I can't feel/see anything different. Had him drive around and he said my transmission felt better than his. Did a money shift a long time ago on my prelude and that resulted in a new clutch right away and the car sounded like a bomb went off. __________________ What this car really needs is a notification eliminator. There's a wi-fi notification. Bluetooth notification. Parking brake disabled notification. Always some annoying notification popping up. - Navigator post

02-27-2021, 05:52 PM	#4
soloknight6 SoCal HT5! SD Drives: 2016 red hot 2ss M6 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: San Diego CA, Posts: 1,929	If it seems fine, It's fine. Don't sweat it. Im pretty confident a stock LT1 can survive a couple seconds @ 7k RPM. __________________ http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...37#post5437037 By my deeds, I honor him. V8!!!

02-27-2021, 05:57 PM	#5
Reddy1LE Drives: 1SS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: NY Posts: 172	Thanks everyone. Yeah I feel like the biggest thing is clutch chatter being more than usual but probably just me. __________________ What this car really needs is a notification eliminator. There's a wi-fi notification. Bluetooth notification. Parking brake disabled notification. Always some annoying notification popping up. - Navigator post

02-27-2021, 06:44 PM	#7
BruceWayne1LE Drives: 2018 Camaro SS 1LE M6 Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Northern California Posts: 345	Did it from 3rd to 2nd at 75 when I first got the car. Jerked hard but I only released the clutch slightly. That was 20k miles ago. I’m used to my offset MGW shifter on my foxbody. Took some getting used to __________________ Camaro 2SS 1LE, MBRP Catback, Mishimoto Catch Can, Rotofab dry, TSP1 7/8” headers,DSX FF, Pray ported MSD, 95mm TB 492WHP 473WTQ

02-27-2021, 08:11 PM	#8
Reddy1LE Drives: 1SS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: NY Posts: 172	So I just checked PI Toolbox. I hit 6795 rpm. Hit it for 0.09 seconds. Still freaking out lol __________________ What this car really needs is a notification eliminator. There's a wi-fi notification. Bluetooth notification. Parking brake disabled notification. Always some annoying notification popping up. - Navigator post

02-27-2021, 05:51 PM	#2
Warrior102 Drives: 2018 2SS 1LE Black Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Cape Cod Posts: 638	A mechanical over rev can result in bent valves, believe me you'd know it. Sounds like you'll be fine don't sweat it.

02-27-2021, 06:28 PM	#6
Aragorn Account Suspended Drives: Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,538	Yep should be fine. Ironically I was missing 3rd also , but by shifting past it towards 5th. Making sure to shift with my palm now, straight and upwards if that makes sense.

02-27-2021, 08:23 PM	#9
LT4Greg Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 Coupe Join Date: May 2016 Location: Georgia Posts: 5,813	No worries for you! __________________ ZL1 Coupe, PDR, Exposed carbon fiber hood insert, My Link with Nav, M6 6 speed and Silver Ice Metallic. Mods done: ceramic window tint, GM Accessories Camaro floor mats and Roto-Fab CAI.

02-27-2021, 08:36 PM	#10
Petrol Head Account Suspended Drives: Fast if no one's looking Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 1,794	If it starts and runs fine, nothing rough, and no check engine lights, you’re fine. This is something that’s either catastrophic and immediate or no issues at all. You really don’t have gray area on an accidental over-rev.

02-28-2021, 06:17 AM	#12
s346k Drives: like an old lady Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: indiana Posts: 2,395	i wouldn't be concerned with the rpm value near as much as the rapid accel to said value. from the sounds of it you barely engaged the clutch, no need to worry. i shift my stock internal bolt on car higher than 6795. i try to keep it out of the limiter but it does see 7k rpm quite frequently. youre fine. __________________ 2016+ camaro: everyone’s first car

02-28-2021, 07:12 AM	#13
Big Lebowski Drives: 022 C8 Z51 Red Mist HTC Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: West Suburbs of Chicago Posts: 200	And people say, manual transmissions aren’t fun! Pffft. OP - hope all works out. After your buddies comparative test drive I’d say your ok. PS - If you’re not, take it to the dealer but not sure if user error is covered so I might leave the miss-shift out of the conversation. __________________ “Yeah, well, you know, that’s just like, your opinion, man.” - The Dude

02-28-2021, 10:17 AM	#14
Petrol Head Account Suspended Drives: Fast if no one's looking Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 1,794	Does anyone know how much data and for how long in both time and mileage is stored in the “black box”? There was a time a few years ago it was only a rolling previous 8-10 seconds of basic vehicle operation on most cars but I have a feeling it’s much longer and more detailed now.

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