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Old 07-16-2018, 12:52 PM   #29
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The 1LE is on junk Michelin tires, the whole test is basically void. What a waste of a good test. Also both cars should have been manual cars if you really wanted to compare.
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Old 07-16-2018, 01:09 PM   #30
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Let’s be honest and fair. The ZR1 is king in GM right now. Period.

I don't think anyone is arguing that point. This test to me shows where the Zl1 1LE stands. We pretty much knew the ZR1 would do what it does.



I have a feeling the 1LE is going to reign supreme vs it's Ford and Dodge counterparts for a while to come.
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Old 07-16-2018, 01:18 PM   #31
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Old 07-16-2018, 01:36 PM   #32
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ZR1 looks good right up until you compare it to a GT2RS or 720s... then left for DEAD
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Old 07-16-2018, 02:20 PM   #33
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The 1LE is on junk Michelin tires, the whole test is basically void. What a waste of a good test. Also both cars should have been manual cars if you really wanted to compare.
Wait...what??
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Old 07-16-2018, 02:27 PM   #34
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ZR1 looks good right up until you compare it to a GT2RS or 720s... then left for DEAD

Smh. Stop it. Those are $300k cars.
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Old 07-16-2018, 03:30 PM   #35
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The 1LE is on junk Michelin tires, the whole test is basically void. What a waste of a good test. Also both cars should have been manual cars if you really wanted to compare.
No. The run was on new set of the Goodyears. It was photographed with the other tires.
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Old 07-16-2018, 04:11 PM   #36
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No. The run was on new set of the Goodyears. It was photographed with the other tires.
Yes. See post 13 for details and quote from the test group.
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Old 07-16-2018, 05:16 PM   #37
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ZR1 looks good right up until you compare it to a GT2RS or 720s... then left for DEAD
Everything is left for dead against the Space Force 720S.
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Old 07-16-2018, 06:09 PM   #38
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Something how GM was able to take something as awesome as the ZL1 1LE and then make the Vette destroy it. This shows how incredible the ZL1 really is. And it shows why Ford needs more time developing the GT500. First it was supposed to be ready for late 2018 release, then early 2019 release, and now it won't be ready until MY 2020. GM is definitely on top.

And another thing, videos like this shows exactly how potent the LT4 is and exactly why GM doesn't need to change a thing on the ZL1. We don't need the LT5 when the ZL1 1LE is this badass. To be able to push this car this hard and for it to not even skip a beat is truly magnificent!!
Good post...agree with everything you said besides the LT5. Get what you are saying of course but I think adding factory 100hp would be the only reason for me to consider an upgrade over my 17. I'm sure it would be way down the road & of course the lines if a new gen would play a factor too.

I'm not sure what the LT5 addy would be, but assuming the current cost gap would be lighter if they moved it to a more mass type production vs what I understand is currently very hands on.

Kinda makes one wonder what the time would be with an LT5 power plant...regardless, GM is setting the bar high & will be fun to see what the GT500 is going to be able to accomplish. Fun time to be an enthusiast.
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Old 07-16-2018, 08:47 PM   #39
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ZR1 looks good right up until you compare it to a GT2RS or 720s... then left for DEAD
Porsche is ugly honestly. Too Beetle like.
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Old 07-16-2018, 10:33 PM   #40
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ZR-1 is just a smoother car all around. Just wait for the next mid engine car.
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Old 07-17-2018, 05:38 AM   #41
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. Also both cars should have been manual cars if you really wanted to compare.
^^^THIS^^^

Given the Vette had the auto AND that it sounded like it was always in the power band, I wonder what the difference would be had the ZL1 had an auto as well? Perhaps less than the 3 seconds? The driver did a great job shifting so it's hard to say if it would have made much difference but who knows?

While it was GREAT to see these two cars on the same track, same day, same driver, they both should have had the same type of transmission to really compare apples to apples.

Well, then again, a ZR1 Vette vs a ZL1 Camaro isn't exactly 'apples to apples' to start with.
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Old 07-17-2018, 12:19 PM   #42
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Actually for a fair comparison both cars should have the A10.
Yes you can argue the 1le thing but the original SS Camaro had a big block and the original Z28 a small block.
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