[AxiomVerge]

Very noob question. I've never upgraded a camshaft before but I like the exhaust sound and the idea of getting more power with it. But searching the forums it's not clear to me if you can get these things without having to worry about smog, maintaining the valve springs every 20k (which I would forget to do), or the ride becoming rough in an M6.

Or is it like there are cams out there suitable for a DD, but they wouldn't be any improvement from stock in terms of sound and performance?

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[BowtieRocket]

Imho and im am by no mean an expert...but will give my thoughts. There are a few companies like JDP that offer cams that improve performane and still privide a "streetable" performing cam. Best to talk with the pros and make an informed decision based on their collective expertise. Do some research and ask the source, "horses mouth". There's a few knowledgeable sources here for sure, but get the facts from the brains that design said products

[Hard Parker]

If drivability is a concern have you considered a supercharger?

Drive like stock until it gets into boost

[AxiomVerge]

Originally Posted by Hard Parker

If drivability is a concern have you considered a supercharger?

Drive like stock until it gets into boost

Yeah, I'm trying to consider all my options. Just the idea of swapping the cam sounds interesting and unique if it didn't also entail the hassle.

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[Hard Parker]

Supercharger install is prolly less than labor for cam I would guess


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[JANNETTYRACING]

Originally Posted by AxiomVerge

Very noob question. I've never upgraded a camshaft before but I like the exhaust sound and the idea of getting more power with it. But searching the forums it's not clear to me if you can get these things without having to worry about smog, maintaining the valve springs every 20k (which I would forget to do), or the ride becoming rough in an M6.

Or is it like there are cams out there suitable for a DD, but they wouldn't be any improvement from stock in terms of sound and performance?

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Hello and welcome!

I offer cams specifically for your personal goals, we can provide you with all the parts and the tuning to go along with it.

Feel free to give me a call to discuss your project.

Ted.

[DD goat]

1. Cam swap in this car is not the easiest compared to others.
2. DO NOT buy a cam based on the sound. Some of the best sounding cams are the worst for the street!!

[JANNETTYRACING]

Originally Posted by DD goat

1. Cam swap in this car is not the easiest compared to others.
2. DO NOT buy a cam based on the sound. Some of the best sounding cams are the worst for the street!!

[RideZX6R]

Honestly - with the fuels systems in the LT1 being the way it is... Cam questions will likely be as/more common as they were for Gen 3/4 LSx motors, as the fuel lobe change is an easy way to add fueling even with labor costs, isn't much more expensive than an LT4 pump/injectors.

For newbies, the thing to know and remember is, the camshafts biggest job to SET THE RANGE OF YOUR POWERBAND. - Yes it will add power, but if you go too agressive you will sacrifice mid and low-rpm power for only high-rpm power. If you're not going to be in the high RPMs all the time (most aren't - these are street cars after all) - You likely don't need the most aggressive cam you can find. And in some real world scenarios, a smaller cam might make only marginally less power but the power peak is over a much broader RPM range, which in turn makes a car faster (not more powerful) - this is the idea of "the area under the curve" you'll hear of.

Can you get a streetable cam that'll make power and drive similar to stock? YES, absolutely! MAX Effort camshafts usually come with compromises in drivability, compromises in other required parts to support the cam (rear gears, stall converter, etc) - Or perhaps both. Do your research.

Also lastly - and I believe this isn't said often enough - "Drivability" is a relative term. Drivable to some means "the same as stock", to others it might mean "isn't stock, but requires little to no compromise" and yet to others it might mean simply "it's legal on the street and that's all I care about"

Personally, I plan on having a cam spec'd for me by a pro as opposed to an "off-the-shelf" grind from a vendor. This is more expensive but I'm willing to pay for it. Partially because I can specify how "drivable" I want it, but MAINLY because I plan on doing a very experimental set of heads (Ported Gen V 5.3L heads with custom size valving) - to make a car that is specifically for all-motor power.

[BowtieRocket]

Originally Posted by RideZX6R

Honestly - with the fuels systems in the LT1 being the way it is... Cam questions will likely be as/more common as they were for Gen 3/4 LSx motors, as the fuel lobe change is an easy way to add fueling even with labor costs, isn't much more expensive than an LT4 pump/injectors.

For newbies, the thing to know and remember is, the camshafts biggest job to SET THE RANGE OF YOUR POWERBAND. - Yes it will add power, but if you go too agressive you will sacrifice mid and low-rpm power for only high-rpm power. If you're not going to be in the high RPMs all the time (most aren't - these are street cars after all) - You likely don't need the most aggressive cam you can find. And in some real world scenarios, a smaller cam might make only marginally less power but the power peak is over a much broader RPM range, which in turn makes a car faster (not more powerful) - this is the idea of "the area under the curve" you'll hear of.

Can you get a streetable cam that'll make power and drive similar to stock? YES, absolutely! MAX Effort camshafts usually come with compromises in drivability, compromises in other required parts to support the cam (rear gears, stall converter, etc) - Or perhaps both. Do your research.

Also lastly - and I believe this isn't said often enough - "Drivability" is a relative term. Drivable to some means "the same as stock", to others it might mean "isn't stock, but requires little to no compromise" and yet to others it might mean simply "it's legal on the street and that's all I care about"

Personally, I plan on having a cam spec'd for me by a pro as opposed to an "off-the-shelf" grind from a vendor. This is more expensive but I'm willing to pay for it. Partially because I can specify how "drivable" I want it, but MAINLY because I plan on doing a very experimental set of heads (Ported Gen V 5.3L heads with custom size valving) - to make a car that is specifically for all-motor power.

[AxiomVerge]

Originally Posted by RideZX6R

Honestly - with the fuels systems in the LT1 being the way it is... Cam questions will likely be as/more common as they were for Gen 3/4 LSx motors, as the fuel lobe change is an easy way to add fueling even with labor costs, isn't much more expensive than an LT4 pump/injectors.

For newbies, the thing to know and remember is, the camshafts biggest job to SET THE RANGE OF YOUR POWERBAND. - Yes it will add power, but if you go too agressive you will sacrifice mid and low-rpm power for only high-rpm power. If you're not going to be in the high RPMs all the time (most aren't - these are street cars after all) - You likely don't need the most aggressive cam you can find. And in some real world scenarios, a smaller cam might make only marginally less power but the power peak is over a much broader RPM range, which in turn makes a car faster (not more powerful) - this is the idea of "the area under the curve" you'll hear of.

Can you get a streetable cam that'll make power and drive similar to stock? YES, absolutely! MAX Effort camshafts usually come with compromises in drivability, compromises in other required parts to support the cam (rear gears, stall converter, etc) - Or perhaps both. Do your research.

Also lastly - and I believe this isn't said often enough - "Drivability" is a relative term. Drivable to some means "the same as stock", to others it might mean "isn't stock, but requires little to no compromise" and yet to others it might mean simply "it's legal on the street and that's all I care about"

Personally, I plan on having a cam spec'd for me by a pro as opposed to an "off-the-shelf" grind from a vendor. This is more expensive but I'm willing to pay for it. Partially because I can specify how "drivable" I want it, but MAINLY because I plan on doing a very experimental set of heads (Ported Gen V 5.3L heads with custom size valving) - to make a car that is specifically for all-motor power.

Thanks for this advice. I actually prefer low end torque over high end if it's a choice. I dunno I guess I just like short bursts of speed over long buildups of speed.

I think I may still call JDP and see what they say...their shop is a 6 hour drive from here which could be a fun road trip.

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[RedRacer Video]

Totally feasible. Just don't get carried away with the sizing of the cam. JDP is an excellent resource, as I think others here have mentioned.

Welcome to the forum!

[triggerjerk]

This one looks interesting
http://www.lingenfelter.com/product/...l#.WMFwSJUzW71

[Franko07]

off the subject a bit but i feel this is an excellent value, am i wrong?
http://www.lingenfelter.com/product/...l#.WMF08zvythE