Maybe I'm Crazy, Newer SS's are slower

laynlo15 · 10-24-2019, 08:16 AM

It just seems like I see a lot of time slips on the newer SS's that are slower then the 16s when they first came out. Has GM done something to slow the Camaro's down. Every once in a while someone will post a low 12 second pass but lots are 12.50's and up. Am I crazy (that's debatable)?

Juiced1 · 10-24-2019, 08:35 AM

Not all drivers are created equal....bad day at the track....manual car. I would think the 19s are even more capable with that 10 speed. They all dyno about the same

RobbyBeefcake87 · 10-24-2019, 10:02 AM

I actually haven't seen anyone get a great time that would rank in the fast list with an a10 and the publications didn't get any great times with them, so I see where you're coming from, but two 1les went 12.3 in quarter mile in recent publications tests and quite a few guys on FB have 12.1s and 12.2s on FB with manual 2019s. So the manuals haven't gotten any slower that's for sure.

laynlo15 · 10-24-2019, 11:50 AM

I keep a pretty good eye on the fast list and when we all got ours about the same and all started going to the track it seemed like they were faster. I know my first pass was a 12.05 and second was a 12.04 and lots of guys were matching and some beating my times bone stock but just don't remember seeing those numbers anymore. Yes we all have different abilities at the track. I have over 240 passes on this car right now and 12700 miles. So I've gotten pretty used to it for sure. Also have 51 years of drag racing under my belt so that shows how old I am, but don't plan of stopping anytime soon. Got to at least get 300 passes on this car before I hang it up.

Fraxum · 10-25-2019, 12:46 PM

let's see what LT1/LT1s run with tires.......

Still thatwill be a bolton Camaro, interesting none the less.

I wonder though if MRC can help the SS Tour mode.

KingLT1 · 10-25-2019, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Juiced1

Not all drivers are created equal....bad day at the track....manual car. I would think the 19s are even more capable with that 10 speed. They all dyno about the same

A10's SS are slower in the 1/4. More TM with more shifts. The tuning support isn't great on the 10L80 either.

Joshinator99 · 10-25-2019, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by KingLT1

A10's SS are slower in the 1/4. More TM with more shifts. The tuning support isn't great on the 10L80 either.

With the lower torque rating of the 10L80 (vs the 8L90), I think your comment about the more restrictive torque management is spot on.

wnta1ss · 10-26-2019, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by KingLT1

A10's SS are slower in the 1/4. More TM with more shifts. The tuning support isn't great on the 10L80 either.

Don't know about it's TM, but the stock A10 SS should not have more shifts in the 1/4 mile than the stock A8 SS does. Should still be in 5th gear, but at a higher rpm (better in other words) than the A8. The A8's 5th as you know is geared to almost 150mph, while the A10's 5th is geared in the lower 120s on stock tires. If the stock A10's shift programming is so bad that it's going to 6th during the 1/4 mile, I would suggest that the driver slap the shifter over to the left while in 5th to hold it until the finish line. The 'Snowblind' technique.

6spdhyperblue · 10-26-2019, 06:44 AM

Look at my thread about the exhaust pops, I have the 17 vs 19 min spark tables there. The a10 definitely pulls more timing for TM.

KingLT1 · 10-26-2019, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by wnta1ss

Don't know about it's TM, but the stock A10 SS should not have more shifts in the 1/4 mile than the stock A8 SS does. Should still be in 5th gear, but at a higher rpm (better in other words) than the A8. The A8's 5th as you know is geared to almost 150mph, while the A10's 5th is geared in the lower 120s on stock tires. If the stock A10's shift programming is so bad that it's going to 6th during the 1/4 mile, I would suggest that the driver slap the shifter over to the left while in 5th to hold it until the finish line. The 'Snowblind' technique.

You are right, they don't use 6th until they start making more power. I am use to watching modded ZL1 A10's.

10-24-2019, 08:16 AM	#1
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,860	Maybe I'm Crazy, Newer SS's are slower It just seems like I see a lot of time slips on the newer SS's that are slower then the 16s when they first came out. Has GM done something to slow the Camaro's down. Every once in a while someone will post a low 12 second pass but lots are 12.50's and up. Am I crazy (that's debatable)? __________________ 2022 Lt1 6.2 A10, Maggie 2300, THPSI Port Inj/10 rib, Rotofab, E, Nickey, SCOL, Griptech, RC Bandits, Hoosiers/MT 9.80@142.96 1.44 60ft, 6.34@112 707/669 RWHP/TRQ. 16SS Maggie 2650 9.41@147 1.35 60ft, 5.99@119. 16 C7 A8 10.90@128 Bolt on stuff

10-24-2019, 10:02 AM	#3
RobbyBeefcake87 Drives: 2018 Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Tampa Florida Posts: 1,980	I actually haven't seen anyone get a great time that would rank in the fast list with an a10 and the publications didn't get any great times with them, so I see where you're coming from, but two 1les went 12.3 in quarter mile in recent publications tests and quite a few guys on FB have 12.1s and 12.2s on FB with manual 2019s. So the manuals haven't gotten any slower that's for sure. __________________ 2000 Miata - aventi storm wheels, roll bar. 2019 Mustang GT pp1 - svt pp2 wheels, mbrp cat back, sync 3 upgrade, p1x procharger + stg2 intercooler. 2018 Colorado zr2 - zr2 sport bar, showcase spare tire. 2018 Camaro SS 1LE - GM cai, black bowties, suede knee bolsters, 1le plate frame, black fuel door, dark tails + 3rd brake light, euro side markers + led's, GM all weather floor mats, velossatech big mouth, GM strut brace. 2017 Corvette Grandsport (sold) - untouched. 2006 GTO (sold) - iat relocation, air box mod, monero side marker lights.

10-24-2019, 11:50 AM	#4
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,860	I keep a pretty good eye on the fast list and when we all got ours about the same and all started going to the track it seemed like they were faster. I know my first pass was a 12.05 and second was a 12.04 and lots of guys were matching and some beating my times bone stock but just don't remember seeing those numbers anymore. Yes we all have different abilities at the track. I have over 240 passes on this car right now and 12700 miles. So I've gotten pretty used to it for sure. Also have 51 years of drag racing under my belt so that shows how old I am, but don't plan of stopping anytime soon. Got to at least get 300 passes on this car before I hang it up. __________________ 2022 Lt1 6.2 A10, Maggie 2300, THPSI Port Inj/10 rib, Rotofab, E, Nickey, SCOL, Griptech, RC Bandits, Hoosiers/MT 9.80@142.96 1.44 60ft, 6.34@112 707/669 RWHP/TRQ. 16SS Maggie 2650 9.41@147 1.35 60ft, 5.99@119. 16 C7 A8 10.90@128 Bolt on stuff

10-25-2019, 12:46 PM	#5
Fraxum Drives: a M6 LT1 ordered From Becky!!! Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 7,520	let's see what LT1/LT1s run with tires....... Still thatwill be a bolton Camaro, interesting none the less. I wonder though if MRC can help the SS Tour mode. __________________ "Democracy Dies in Darkness" My LT1 Keeper ..... ..... My Car Blog CarPlayList, a free App to build USB and Android Music drives.

10-24-2019, 08:35 AM	#2
Juiced1 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 2SS CAMARO 45th Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: St. Charles, IL Posts: 18,663	Not all drivers are created equal....bad day at the track....manual car. I would think the 19s are even more capable with that 10 speed. They all dyno about the same

10-26-2019, 06:44 AM	#9
6spdhyperblue Drives: 6th gen Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: US Posts: 3,670	Look at my thread about the exhaust pops, I have the 17 vs 19 min spark tables there. The a10 definitely pulls more timing for TM.

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