[Bhobbs]

No, ZL-1s were big block 427s that went in both Camaros and Corvettes. That isn’t a justification for changing the Z/28 again.

[Gen6_1Le]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

No, ZL-1s were big block 427s that went in both Camaros and Corvettes. That isn’t a justification for changing the Z/28 again.

Giving the Z28 only what is needed trying to keep it a pure car was the problem with them sitting on lots new for 4 years , that's a fail . Make it the Halo car it should be and give it the best tech available, even if it's turbos or electric motors and AWD, Leave the past where it is , just remember one thing ,there are a lot more bad Z28 years then good .

[396ssrat]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

No, ZL-1s were big block 427s that went in both Camaros and Corvettes. That isn’t a justification for changing the Z/28 again.

If Chevy stuck to it's heritage you would not be driving what you are driving.
It's 2019, build a bridge because they'll what anything they "want" to build and we are in the Camaro survival mode at this point so for all I care it could be a twin turbo 5.5 incher.

[Ace01]

Originally Posted by 2SSRS@Gen5diy

To me a Z/28 need to push the line forward, its the test bed for the car, so what i think is coming in the next Z/28.


all new motor with 4 valve per 2 cam per, that is what the new C8 is getting and i don't see why it will not come out in the new Z/28.


one of the new tremco TR-9007 DCT 7-speed dual clutch transmission, i dont know of more then a hand full of cars that can use this.

think the rest is OK.

Agree with TR-9007 DCT 7-Speed Dual Clutch

[Ace01]

http://www.tremec.com/menu.php?m=155 This needs to be in the next version of the 1LE, ZL1 and Z28

[Gen6_1Le]

Originally Posted by Ace01

http://www.tremec.com/menu.php?m=155 This needs to be in the next version of the 1LE, ZL1 and Z28

I think it would work in a Halo car and also a ZL1. At the level of the SS/1Le the added cost wouldn't make sense , it has been very successful with the 6speed .

[396ssrat]

Why handicap yourselves with a limited torque capability transmission? That's only 14 lb/ft more than a ZL1.

[NW-99SS]

Gen6_1LE is still missing where I said that I have no issue with an AWD performance car from GM. Use the Corvette/Camaro/Cadillac power, hybrid, whatever your heart desires - hell, make it a 2+2, just call it anything other than a Camaro.

[Gen6_1Le]

Originally Posted by NW-99SS

Gen6_1LE is still missing where I said that I have no issue with an AWD performance car from GM. Use the Corvette/Camaro/Cadillac power, hybrid, whatever your heart desires - hell, make it a 2+2, just call it anything other than a Camaro.

I’m not missing anything, it’s just what you are saying is silly. I think you have been missing what has been said about Camaro , it’s in a process of evolution.Sadly people are thinking the next gen Camaro needs to look like a 3rd gen Camaro with split bumpers powered by a big block , that’s not going to happen. The 7th gen can’t look like any Camaro we have seen before,and will be powered differently then we have seen before,like it or not . GM won’t be adding another performance line when they are having trouble now selling. I want to see the Camaro move forward .

[NW-99SS]

Originally Posted by Gen6_1Le

I’m not missing anything, it’s just what you are saying is silly. I think you have been missing what has been said about Camaro , it’s in a process of evolution.Sadly people are thinking the next gen Camaro needs to look like a 3rd gen Camaro with split bumpers powered by a big block , that’s not going to happen. The 7th gen can’t look like any Camaro we have seen before,and will be powered differently then we have seen before,like it or not . GM won’t be adding another performance line when they are having trouble now selling. I want to see the Camaro move forward .

Alright, so we completely disagree.

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by Gen6_1Le

When Chevy made the stripped down Z28 a 75K Camaro they set the bar. Even though 95% of the people would have been very happy with 1Le dressed in Z28 stickers and 20HP bump ,especially if it came with an automatic. Now lets push ahead to 2024 or sooner , what i would like to see is a 775HP or more maybe even much more motor . On the lines of the new Cadillac Blackwing along with some electric motors to equal that HP and 850+ in torq. There won't be enough aerodynamics available to keep grip for that car , that's where AWD comes in . I think that would be the perfect Z28 , Al O talked about wanting a sub 7 minute Camaro at Nurburgring , a Z28 AWD hybrid will do it . It may not come cheap but neither did the last one. Don't let what the Camaro never had fog your mind , open it up to the tech that's out there NOW and use it .

Al can say that kind of stuff all day. Until we see a ring time from the ZR1 I wouldn't get your hopes up about the Camaro being king of the ring at GM.

Originally Posted by Gen6_1Le

I’m not missing anything, it’s just what you are saying is silly. I think you have been missing what has been said about Camaro , it’s in a process of evolution.Sadly people are thinking the next gen Camaro needs to look like a 3rd gen Camaro with split bumpers powered by a big block , that’s not going to happen. The 7th gen can’t look like any Camaro we have seen before,and will be powered differently then we have seen before,like it or not . GM won’t be adding another performance line when they are having trouble now selling. I want to see the Camaro move forward .

I get you want to see Camaro move forward, but I don't think the Camaro is the right test bed for that kind of tech you want to see.

[17CamaroZL1]

Originally Posted by tbrennyZL1

One of the big 3 is going use their big hp engine and use AWD and have blistering acceleration and 1/4 mile times. Why not be the first instead of the copy cat.

Let them. AWD is not needed to be fast on the track. It simply takes drag radials and the right suspension setup. When you can launch a rear wheel drive car with the front tires in the air, why add the extra weight and power robbing rotating mass of the drivetrain for the fronts? That's why you don't see these 10,000 plus hp drag cars running AWD. Plus AWD takes away a huge part of the fun of a sports car.....smoking tires and drifting when you're just out for a fun little joy ride.

[Squatch]

I wouldn't mind electric assist along with some kind of boost (front or rear assist I don't care)

[NW-99SS]

Originally Posted by 17CamaroZL1

Let them. AWD is not needed to be fast on the track. It simply takes drag radials and the right suspension setup. When you can launch a rear wheel drive car with the front tires in the air, why add the extra weight and power robbing rotating mass of the drivetrain for the fronts? That's why you don't see these 10,000 plus hp drag cars running AWD. Plus AWD takes away a huge part of the fun of a sports car.....smoking tires and drifting when you're just out for a fun little joy ride.

This

I don't want the added weight and complexity in a sports car. Maybe my opinion is invalid, but I own an AWD SUV, and previously owned 2 other AWD SUVs, an AWD Sedan, and an AWD Silverado SS w/650hp.

No, I don't think a Camaro should get heavier and more complex with AWD. The fastest cars in the world - F1 and dragstrip - don't use it and I don't want it for either scenario either.

I do like AWD for Canadian winters.