Reason why Camaro is staggered?

FarmerFran · 07-11-2023, 03:45 PM

Did they ever say why they went with a staggered wheel set up?

KMPrenger · 07-11-2023, 03:50 PM

On the SS models, I thought it was to reduce understeer, which is better for "normal" people lol.

EDIT...ahh so close lol. Thanks to VR Baron below for the correction.

VR Baron · 07-11-2023, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KMPrenger

On the SS models, I thought it was to reduce understeer, which is better for "normal" people lol.

All else same with suspension, stagger increases understeer, which mfgs like so people won’t tail first into a wall as understeer easier for Joe average to control on the street.

50MileSmile · 07-11-2023, 04:00 PM

As above, plus:
1. Because it’s a performance car, and you have to be able to get the power down.
2. So they can sell you more tires, since you really can’t rotate them to extend tread life.

Gen6cyl · 07-11-2023, 04:03 PM

Bigger rear tires and a handling balance to push. Guess they are still paranoid since the corvair debacle.

Wyzz Kydd · 07-11-2023, 04:21 PM

Cause big fat rear tires look really cool?

FarmerFran · 07-11-2023, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyzz Kydd

Cause big fat rear tires look really cool?

Agree, but nothing wrong with big fat front tires

Iconic · 07-11-2023, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wyzz Kydd

Cause big fat rear tires look really cool?

Hell yeah, 12 inch meats for the win

SSShark · 07-11-2023, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wyzz Kydd

Cause big fat rear tires look really cool?

This

302crossram · 07-11-2023, 05:13 PM

for the same reason the C8 has built in understeer from the factory

(too many buyers with more money than brains)

Mark114 · 07-11-2023, 05:32 PM

https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=527909

Why did the 6th gen SS 1LE get wider tires at the rear only?

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Originally Posted by Norm Peterson

Given that the 5th gen 1LE and Z/28 both ran same-size tires at all four corners, I'm wondering what changed the philosophy specifically for the 6th gen SS 1LE away from maintaining the same tire size all around and simply making the rear wheels a little wider than the fronts.

Was it a downstream consequence of the bump in power and torque? Understeer budget or breakaway characteristics reasons and the Alpha chassis? Appearance? Other?

Norm

Quote:

Originally Posted by vtirocz

This question was asked to Al during the last Camaro Fest in Bowling Green. He said that they tested several different options, including a square setup like the 5th gen SS 1LE, and they were able to get faster lap times and overall better handling characteristics with the setup they chose. The practical benefits of the square setup were offset by the better performance characteristics of the staggered setup.

Keep in mind that the 6th gen suspension geometry and chassis are different from the 5th gen, so what worked well on one may not work well on the other.

50MileSmile · 07-11-2023, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by FarmerFran

Agree, but nothing wrong with big fat front tires

Except that they limit steering precision and control of the car at speed…

Wyzz Kydd · 07-11-2023, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark114

https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=527909

Why did the 6th gen SS 1LE get wider tires at the rear only?

Cause people driving a 1LE are the coolest??

CalgaryZL1 · 07-11-2023, 07:01 PM

Have you ever seen a tractor with the same big fat tires in the front? Torque torque torque

07-11-2023, 03:45 PM	#1
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07-11-2023, 03:50 PM	#2
KMPrenger Drives: 16 Camaro SS, 15 Colorado Join Date: May 2009 Location: Jefferson City, Missouri Posts: 13,943	On the SS models, I thought it was to reduce understeer, which is better for "normal" people lol. EDIT...ahh so close lol. Thanks to VR Baron below for the correction. __________________ 2016 Camaro 1SS - 8-speed - NPP - Black bowties 2010 Camaro 1LT V6 (Sold. I will miss her!) Last edited by KMPrenger; 07-12-2023 at 10:57 AM.

07-11-2023, 04:03 PM	#5
Gen6cyl Drives: Chevy Camaro 2021 ,rs, v6, manual Join Date: Feb 2022 Location: Georgia Posts: 868	Bigger rear tires and a handling balance to push. Guess they are still paranoid since the corvair debacle. __________________ B6 dampers, x pipe, mbrp axel back

07-11-2023, 04:00 PM	#4
50MileSmile Drives: 2023 2SS, 2018 1SS 1LE, 1993 Z/28 Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Midwest Posts: 819	As above, plus: 1. Because it’s a performance car, and you have to be able to get the power down. 2. So they can sell you more tires, since you really can’t rotate them to extend tread life.

07-11-2023, 04:21 PM	#6
Wyzz Kydd Banned Drives: 2018 Camaro SS1 1LE Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,595	Cause big fat rear tires look really cool?

07-11-2023, 05:13 PM	#10
302crossram Drives: 2023 Sharkskin 2SS Join Date: Oct 2022 Location: NWFL Posts: 758	for the same reason the C8 has built in understeer from the factory (too many buyers with more money than brains)

07-11-2023, 07:01 PM	#14
CalgaryZL1 Drives: 2020 Chevy Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2023 Location: Calgary Canada Posts: 1,483	Have you ever seen a tractor with the same big fat tires in the front? Torque torque torque

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