2019 Camaro unveiled with refreshed design, 10 Speed and 1LE Turbo Model!! - Page 206

hector95z · 10-22-2018, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by shaffe

but the flow tie! it has been optimized for additional airflow! As others I have said and I agreed, if you needed the flow tie for the additional cooling then the design was flawed to begin with. the fact that they might have this "revised" fascia as a option or become the standard fascia tells me a few things.

1. The Flow tie was not needed for additional cooling.
2. GM became aware of the heavy criticism of the design and decided to change it.

I've always called BS on the whole Flowtie. Yeah, how much more air can you get into a 3×5 inch area? Really? It was all just a marketing ploy, a cool one, but nothing less

50MileSmile · 10-22-2018, 03:07 PM

It’s actually about 6-7 inches of additional airflow, and in extreme conditions (track or high ambient temperatures) it helps. Even though it flows into the same area as the upper grill, Chevy didn’t just spend the extra money on punching a hole in the bumper face for good looks.

As far as the front license plate “blocking” airflow, of course it does (a little) - but I’m sure the car was tested with the front plate holder in place to make sure it doesn’t hinder adequate airflow. Running without the front plate will give the car a little bonus airflow - but, as a bonus, it also will increase the front end’s good looks.

Stex · 10-22-2018, 03:56 PM

Checked auto trader and GM sites, Only 14 2019 SS coupes in San Antonio. Mostly black or gray. Two white, two red. Not exactly a large inventory. Must be low dealer orders that is bothering GM. Or Becky is selling all the Camaros here for them.

Boost Creep · 10-22-2018, 04:18 PM

I think the original flow-tie on the ZL1 actually did improve airflow through the narrow top grill opening. The bow tie blocks the whole center of the upper grill.

On the refresh it's merely a gimmick.
It puts a little hole in the center of the bumper cross bar, a space that has and will always be blocked due to crash standards.

Red Chief · 10-22-2018, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 90503

...So it's a "Refreshed Refresh"..."Refresh Do-over"...."Refresh....NOT!..." or a "Refresh....Psyche!"....

So worry over sales quickly produces panic-mode.....This worries me of what in the world they may have in store for a 7thGen...

Panic mode? More like smart business decision. Listen to customer feedback, move quickly to adapt product. Sounds logical to me.

I don't know what they even need a 7th gen for. They're generations ahead of the Mustang and Challenger while sitting very close to the Corvette on the track. Why start all over again?

All the Camaro needs is the right tweaks to the styling and pricing to be more competitive in sales.

SlimeV8 · 10-22-2018, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RagingHawk

I need that SIM ASAP!!!, getting my chips all lined up now.I love the 2019 and cant wait to get one

50MileSmile · 10-22-2018, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Boost Creep

I think the original flow-tie on the ZL1 actually did improve airflow through the narrow top grill opening. The bow tie blocks the whole center of the upper grill.

On the refresh it's merely a gimmick.
It puts a little hole in the center of the bumper cross bar, a space that has and will always be blocked due to crash standards.

Sorry, but you can put your tiny hand into that flowtie hole and touch the grill. It’s fully open and adds to the airflow. Who’s going to be first to complain about the solid bowtie in the center of the redesigned grill blocking airflow?

z28pat · 10-22-2018, 08:18 PM

Where are the a10 road tests ? Want to see how it runs !

Choppa · 10-22-2018, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by z28pat

Where are the a10 road tests ? Want to see how it runs !

Low Saturn · 10-22-2018, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 50MileSmile

Chevy didn’t just spend the extra money on punching a hole in the bumper face for good looks.

I actually find that very believable. Only it doesn't look good at all.

torqueaddict · 10-22-2018, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Choppa

Modded Mustang (E85 + tune) vs stock 2019 SS with a dufus behind the wheel of the SS. Guy didn't even know the tranny was a 10 speed. Not a good test, but nice looking SS.

SnakeEyeSS · 10-25-2018, 11:10 AM

First I have seen myself, and with a Front plate.

I'm not trying to beat a dead horse or make a joke but I saw it in the peripheral vision of my eye, at first I thought "Charger", until I turned my head

RagingHawk · 10-29-2018, 03:30 PM

This guy knows his stuff ... 2019 10 speed SS review:

TrackClub · 10-29-2018, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RagingHawk

This guy knows his stuff ... 2019 10 speed SS review:

Agree. Well done for sure. Thx for posting it.

10-22-2018, 04:18 PM	#2874
Boost Creep Drives: '18 1SS 1LE Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Pennsyltucky Posts: 2,571	I think the original flow-tie on the ZL1 actually did improve airflow through the narrow top grill opening. The bow tie blocks the whole center of the upper grill. On the refresh it's merely a gimmick. It puts a little hole in the center of the bumper cross bar, a space that has and will always be blocked due to crash standards. __________________ '18 1SS *1LE* Black, PDR

10-25-2018, 11:10 AM	#2882
SnakeEyeSS Drives: Camaro 2SS & ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 857	First I have seen myself, and with a Front plate. I'm not trying to beat a dead horse or make a joke but I saw it in the peripheral vision of my eye, at first I thought "Charger", until I turned my head __________________ 2017 Camaro 2SS A8 Bright Yellow NPP MRC 2023 Camaro ZL1 A10 Radiant Red

10-22-2018, 03:07 PM	#2872
50MileSmile Drives: 2023 2SS, 2018 1SS 1LE, 1993 Z/28 Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Midwest Posts: 819	It’s actually about 6-7 inches of additional airflow, and in extreme conditions (track or high ambient temperatures) it helps. Even though it flows into the same area as the upper grill, Chevy didn’t just spend the extra money on punching a hole in the bumper face for good looks. As far as the front license plate “blocking” airflow, of course it does (a little) - but I’m sure the car was tested with the front plate holder in place to make sure it doesn’t hinder adequate airflow. Running without the front plate will give the car a little bonus airflow - but, as a bonus, it also will increase the front end’s good looks.

10-22-2018, 03:56 PM	#2873
Stex Drives: 67 goat, 69 goat ram air III Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: South texas Posts: 1,443	Checked auto trader and GM sites, Only 14 2019 SS coupes in San Antonio. Mostly black or gray. Two white, two red. Not exactly a large inventory. Must be low dealer orders that is bothering GM. Or Becky is selling all the Camaros here for them.

10-22-2018, 08:18 PM	#2878
z28pat Drives: 2002 z28, 2018 2ss 1LE Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Parrish, Florida Posts: 835	Where are the a10 road tests ? Want to see how it runs !

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