Why the infatuation with 500 + RWHP ?

[Detoxx03]

Originally Posted by 2SSCAMARO

Well here's my version. I took 15 of the posted official dyno charts from our forum for the L99's and they showed an average stock rwhp of 316 RWHP. Add a tune, cai and longtubes you get an average of 41 RWHP gain. That brings itto 357 rwhp. Add a stock tvs 2300 at 5psi that on average produces 20 RWHP per each psi boost which equals an additional 100 RWHP. You end up with approximately 457 RWHP. I see that as being well under 500. I am sure there is a huge placebo effect for some in believing their ride is producing those big numbers and that's cool, whatever floats their boat. But, I suppose all the hype is good in terms of boosting economy as it helps sell a lot of power adders.

So you have never had it on a dyno?

[1GMFanatik]

Enough is never enough.. Once you get started there is always more to be had.. LOL! My TBSS put down 460rwhp on a Mustang Dyno with just a Trick Flow head/cam package and bolt-ons and now I'm doing a 402 Stroker motor.. LOL! Then again, I AM driving a 4500lb brick on wheels.

It's a lot like getting a tattoo.. 1 just never works because then you're lopsided and need to add another to even you out.

[2SSCAMARO]

Originally Posted by 2SSCAMARO

Well here's my version. I took 15 of the posted official dyno charts from our forum for the L99's and they showed an average stock rwhp of 316 RWHP. Add a tune, cai and longtubes you get an average of 41 RWHP gain. That brings itto 357 rwhp. Add a stock tvs 2300 at 5psi that on average produces 20 RWHP per each psi boost which equals an additional 100 RWHP. You end up with approximately 457 RWHP. I see that as being well under 500. I am sure there is a huge placebo effect for some in believing their ride is producing those big numbers and that's cool, whatever floats their boat. But, I suppose all the hype is good in terms of boosting economy as it helps sell a lot of power adders.

Originally Posted by Detoxx03

So you have never had it on a dyno?

Yes, after the maggie install it was on the dyno for tuning and produced basically what I said above. Although I don't know my stock numbers, the numbers while tuning with the maggie, cai, and long tubes were 457 max power and 439 max torque STD. and that's enough to run faster than the 11.49 NHRA cage rule allows.

[Detoxx03]

Originally Posted by 2SSCAMARO

Yes, after the maggie install it was on the dyno for tuning and produced basically what I said above. Although I don't know my stock numbers, the numbers while tuning with the maggie, cai, and long tubes were 457 max power and 439 max torque STD. and that's enough to run faster than the 11.49 NHRA cage rule allows.

Well since your don't have the corrected number (sae) your numbers would be a little lower. Have you ran it at the track?

[2SSCAMARO]

Originally Posted by Detoxx03

Well since your don't have the corrected number (sae) your numbers would be a little lower. Have you ran it at the track?

Like I said in a previous post, I don't know for sure what it is truly making and I really don't much care. It is whatever it is. I do know it's too much for the P Zero's to cope with.

Yes, one outing and four passes before experiencing wheel hop. I couldn't do much with the 275 Pirelli's. Two second 60" times, hitting the rev limiter, short shifting first to second....not much fun but it still run 11.8 @ 121 mph.

[mikepage0007]

Originally Posted by 2SSCAMARO

Except for the almost non-existent owners such as Sweaver, SuperchargedSS, and Midgard, who have installed cages, I am curious to know why anyone would want 500+ RWHP. Well under 500 can get you quickly thrown off the drag strip without a cage and those levels cannot be fully utilized on the street. Just curious.

why do we like chicks with big mounds of fatty flesh that produce baby milk...get a clue , cause we do..no real reason

[chappy48]

Originally Posted by 2SSCAMARO

Well here's my version. I took 15 of the posted official dyno charts from our forum for the L99's and they showed an average stock rwhp of 316 RWHP. Add a tune, cai and longtubes you get an average of 41 RWHP gain. That brings itto 357 rwhp. Add a stock tvs 2300 at 5psi that on average produces 20 RWHP per each psi boost which equals an additional 100 RWHP. You end up with approximately 457 RWHP. I see that as being well under 500. I am sure there is a huge placebo effect for some in believing their ride is producing those big numbers and that's cool, whatever floats their boat. But, I suppose all the hype is good in terms of boosting economy as it helps sell a lot of power adders.

A L99 stock at 316rwhp seems awefully low. I dyno'd stock, consistently, at 342rwhp. In your case I wouldn't worry so much about what your dyno is reading if you're getting the numbers you are at the track. Dyno's are used to tune your car, not tell you how fast it is.

[2010 SS RS]

Originally Posted by mws444

Here is my dyno, and you know what I have put about 2000 miles on her and now I want more.

you need fuel on your upper rpm's a ton of flutter shows you are leaning out and retard is kicking in. That will be your next upgrade LPE dual fuel pump upgrade.

[EvoWake]

:flag2: Because they CAN!

P.S.

500 is for peasants... 600 is where its at!

[J Webb]

Because you can never pull away from a mustang fast enough. 500 will pull away a substantial amount. From a stock or bolt on car that is.

[hunterv6]

some people just like having that much power on tap. Some people like having that much power to utilize it, some people like it just to have it.

Some people find more joy out of building the car than actually racing it.[/QUOTE]







that the truth rather its a v8 or v6 i like a well built car and it a fun hobby.

[SonnyakaPig]

My previous car -- L99 Camaro -- had 470 rwhp, and it was very easy to manage.

I could mash the gas from a complete stop and I would get wheel spin, but if I modulated the throttle with finesse, I could acheive a very clean launch.

My car would not break loose very easy from 30-40 mph rolls.

When I installed LT's, my car could break loose easier, but the power was higher than 470 rwhp (couldn't dyno it completely, so I don't know how much power it was truly making, but traction became more of a problem, but an easy problem to manage at my power level).

With the weight of the Camaro, 500 rwhp is definitely managable and is very daily drivable and can be utilized plenty on the street -- safely I might add.

But, like others have said, 400 rwhp would be fun too. In fact, that's how much rwhp my current car has and it's plenty fast for me.

In fact, because I don't have an LSD yet, my car has horrible traction problems as is, and I have to be careful or else my car will go sideways if I mash the gas from 0-40 mph (on cold nights).

[SonnyakaPig]

Originally Posted by 2SSCAMARO

Yes, after the maggie install it was on the dyno for tuning and produced basically what I said above. Although I don't know my stock numbers, the numbers while tuning with the maggie, cai, and long tubes were 457 max power and 439 max torque STD. and that's enough to run faster than the 11.49 NHRA cage rule allows.

Can a 450 rwhp Gen 5 Camaro run better than 11.49 ET? Even with DR's or slicks?

Assume, the torque converter is stock.

I'm really curious.

[mlee]

Originally Posted by 2SSCAMARO

I am still running the stock Pirellis and on the street I can't even go full throttle after the first to second shift occurs without hitting the rev limiter due to excessive wheel spin. Consequently I do little playing on the street.

Originally Posted by 2SSCAMARO

Now that sounds like a track I would not care to race at. A guy that has that little regard for his own safety surely has no regard for the guy in the adjacent lane.

Hmmmmm just sayin...