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I assumed there would be a big difference between slicks and SC3R's but maybe there isn't in term of the impact it has on brakes? To clarify, I haven't had any "problems yet" since I've just been running with a the stock set up, I'm just trying to plan ahead and prevent a problem from occurring when going to stickier tires, but I do plan on moving the Castrol brake fluid regardless next season. I'm thinking going to SC3R's might be the best bet afterall and leaving everything else (pads and oil) stock. Thanks for your feedback Regarding the track I'm on, the former lead instructor who was a back up F1 car driver said he's been on over 100 circuits in Europe and this track was top 3 difficulty. Sounds like there are some similarities between the tracks we drive on.
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Perhaps the R12 made by gloc will make my list afterall, if I don't decide to just stick with stock pads and go to SC3R's as many people are advising here. Interesting regarding the DTC30, my father driver a heavily modified 1975 transam that is also a heavy car and Hawk recommended this pad for him considering the weight of his car.
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I'll probably get some temp stickers like Sean is using to see where I am at as I really have no idea. I think my concern over the graphs started when I read one members post about throwing away Raybesto's chart and then me seeing the vast different in friction mu levels between manufacturers.
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The former lead instructor gets a 1:22 in a Porsche Cayman S so I hope I can get into the 1:22's either later this season or early next season. That's good to know, my father just started trying the Pirelli DH take offs after having new Hooiser R7's. So far he doesn't think these slicks are any faster than the R7's, but that's just a feeling and he only had 2 sessions on them before his car broke.
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Looking forward to hearing/reading what your next experience is like, but that speaks volumes. Interested to see if you're interested in the Racing Brake product recommended by Nicky. Where did you get the temp stickers from? I might try that myself just to see what this track and my braking style bring my temps up to.
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09-06-2019, 01:00 PM | #35 |
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my suggestion is run a R compound tire. If one brand xis on sale then go for it.
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09-06-2019, 01:13 PM | #36 | |
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Plus as I improve I'll have more to look forward to for future tracking sessions if I want to upgrade the car later. Just out of curiosity, does anyone make a better cooling ducting brake system for our cars?
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I also have Castrol SRF and upgraded pads but the stock pads did well, too. |
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09-06-2019, 01:37 PM | #38 |
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Running slicks as a beginner is a bad idea in my opinion. I dont have any experience with the Camaro yet but on my M3 I use Performance Friction PFC08 pads and get great life out of them (10-12 events). They can be used on the street but are very loud.
Using slicks with stock pads seems like a stretch to me. With the added traction I would want a more aggressive pad. |
09-06-2019, 03:21 PM | #39 | |
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What I can tell you is that I appear to have mildly overheated a set of XP8 Carbotechs (comparable temperature rating to the DTC30) with about half your HP, mostly on tracks that are somewhat less brake-intensive than what I think you're describing (only two truly heavy braking zones per lap, fairly evenly spaced; I think Nicky will agree). For me, those stops are roughly 125 to 65 and 105 to 55; his will be considerably faster. Picture taken at 50% friction material thickness. Something else to be aware of . . . I have noticed that on leaving the hotel the morning after a track day that bite is a little on the soft side for the first few street stops before it recovers. But they never faded at all out on the track the day before, and they're fine on day 2 of a 2-day event.. FWIW, I'm running MPSS tires (Aim datalogging has the car out past 1.25g during a session). I'll have to hunt down that Raybestos chart just to add to my collection of such information - do you have a link? Norm
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09-06-2019, 03:26 PM | #40 | |
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Is your car a 1le? is so add air deflectors to lower control arm. You are not going to overheat your brakes. I am considered a "demon" on the brakes and never once had an issue. Just get some R compounds that are on sale and make sure you have 50% of greater left on your pads and get out there. I am one not to over analyze things but just "do it" I understand everyone's a little different but just get out there and get seat time! Sorry if I am a little ruff but.... |
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09-06-2019, 04:51 PM | #42 | |
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I was asking in the context of what Sean has been through with his brakes and using slicks, if I decide to go that route in the future further down the road.
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