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Talladega · 01-24-2021, 12:53 AM

After tirelessly searching the web and asking on there there is no aftermarket parts to add rake without lowering the front. I didn't want to do that I wanted to raise the rear and using a generic airbag kit was not something I wanted to do. So I did what any car lover would do I made my own. I first machined a 1" flat shim to go on top of the strut but that kicked the angle of the strut out too far to get the lower bolt in. I made a second set that tapered from 1" on the outside to 1/2" on the inside. These fit perfectly and everything lined right back up. When all was said and done that gave me almost 2" more rake to the car. I know it's not a popular mod, obviously since there is nothing aftermarket being made, but it's what I think these cars should look like. It gives it more of a classic muscle car look rather than a supercar look that drags on the ground. I still may put lowering springs on the front to give it even more but that is too be determined.......

mikeman · 01-24-2021, 04:44 AM

It's way too much IMO. Also, the rear wheel not being centered in the wheelwell would drive me nuts. If you do a rake, make it ever so slight. That's what looks best on these cars IMHO.

Bigdumogre · 01-24-2021, 07:38 AM

Time for some bigger tires now to help fill out the well.

I did this on my old monte and loved the look, but on these cars I prefer slightly lowered and even.

Ashen 6.2 · 01-24-2021, 07:56 AM

Make sure and check the alignment as its probably out of whack now.

Aqua Blue RS/SS · 01-24-2021, 01:34 PM

I like it!

hunter1660 · 01-24-2021, 01:44 PM

Air shocks is what was used back in the day. Shackles too on leaf springs. It was done to keep the tires from scrubbing on the fender when wide tires were used and hung out past the fender. Ahhhh the good old days.

InFiD3ViL · 01-24-2021, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashen 6.2

Make sure and check the alignment as its probably out of whack now.

Yeah. Very likely a change in favor of positive camber, which will result in a change in toe. I still need to order some rear camber bolts as my coilovers have me at -1.5 camber - couldn't get any closer to 0. It doesn't look bad at all, but I would prefer to get closer to -.5. She grips nice though.

I have seen some Camaros where it looks like the rear is slightly lower than the front. Not a fan of that look. I lowered mine even all the way around to where I can just fit a finger in between the top of the tire and the wheel well. I mean I used a micrometer to adjust the coilovers, but this was the result.

1JEWLDSSRS · 01-24-2021, 02:13 PM

Not to mention you will probably experience more wheel hop not that the weight is raised more to the front, and not centered as designed.

Talladega · 01-24-2021, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashen 6.2

Make sure and check the alignment as its probably out of whack now.

I did take it for an alignment and to my surprise it was dead on in the rear. Not just within spec it was right in the middle.

TheFlyingBananaSS · 01-24-2021, 02:38 PM

The lines of the car just don't work with it. Imho.

Valkyrie14 · 01-24-2021, 02:42 PM

I agree with you a little rake looks better! I also agree that going a little bigger in tire will complete the look.

Wish I had the engineering skills to do this!

InFiD3ViL · 01-24-2021, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Talladega

I did take it for an alignment and to my surprise it was dead on in the rear. Not just within spec it was right in the middle.

Sweet! You got lucky there. Hey, as long as you like it and it drives right then it's all good. I think it looks good and makes her look mean.

Ashen 6.2 · 01-24-2021, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Talladega

I did take it for an alignment and to my surprise it was dead on in the rear. Not just within spec it was right in the middle.

awesome!

oldman14ss · 01-24-2021, 07:39 PM

would the pinion angle be affected?

01-24-2021, 12:53 AM	#1
Talladega Drives: 2013 Camaro SS Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Arvada, CO Posts: 686	Added Rake After tirelessly searching the web and asking on there there is no aftermarket parts to add rake without lowering the front. I didn't want to do that I wanted to raise the rear and using a generic airbag kit was not something I wanted to do. So I did what any car lover would do I made my own. I first machined a 1" flat shim to go on top of the strut but that kicked the angle of the strut out too far to get the lower bolt in. I made a second set that tapered from 1" on the outside to 1/2" on the inside. These fit perfectly and everything lined right back up. When all was said and done that gave me almost 2" more rake to the car. I know it's not a popular mod, obviously since there is nothing aftermarket being made, but it's what I think these cars should look like. It gives it more of a classic muscle car look rather than a supercar look that drags on the ground. I still may put lowering springs on the front to give it even more but that is too be determined....... Attached Images

01-24-2021, 07:38 AM	#3
Bigdumogre Drives: 2012 Camaro SS Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: New York Posts: 1,434	Time for some bigger tires now to help fill out the well. I did this on my old monte and loved the look, but on these cars I prefer slightly lowered and even. __________________ 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS - CSP Custom Cam 232/240 .615/.615 113 +3, Texas speed CNC heads, FTI billet triple disc converter, K&N cai, Katech ported TB, GPI Ported/rod modded manifold, Texas speed 1 7/8 headers, HFC, Flowmaster 2 chambers with x pipe, Mishimoto CC, MSD wires, Roto fab washer relocation, tru cool 40k trans cooler, apex scoop, Pedders extreme coil overs and much more!!

01-24-2021, 07:56 AM	#4
Ashen 6.2 Drives: 2014 Camaro Z/SS Join Date: May 2014 Location: NW Arkansas Posts: 2,004 View My Garage	Make sure and check the alignment as its probably out of whack now. __________________ 2014 Camaro SS L99, Ashen Grey w/Black Leather - Build thread - http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=491561 Mods - GPI 416 w/Custom Grind Cam, Ported Heads & Tuned by Ben, Holley Dominator ECU, Mag Heartbeat, ZL1 Fuel Pump & DSX Aux Pump, NW 103 TB, FIC 1650's, Alky Meth, Circle D 3600 Triple Disc, Kooks Headers, Viking Coil Overs & all the BMR Goodies in the rear, Zl1 3.23 Diff, DSS Axles, Gulfcoast Driveshaft, Hendrix Offset Diff Bushings, AFE Solid Subframe Bushings, 875HP/843TQ 5FDP

01-24-2021, 01:34 PM	#5
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01-24-2021, 01:44 PM	#6
hunter1660 Drives: 2011ss/rs camaro Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: florida Posts: 1,261	Air shocks is what was used back in the day. Shackles too on leaf springs. It was done to keep the tires from scrubbing on the fender when wide tires were used and hung out past the fender. Ahhhh the good old days. __________________ . OBX LTH,Rotofab,Magnuson Heartbeat.AEM wideband, HP Tuners

01-24-2021, 04:44 AM	#2
mikeman Banned Drives: 2015 Camaro Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: My Garage Posts: 1,125	It's way too much IMO. Also, the rear wheel not being centered in the wheelwell would drive me nuts. If you do a rake, make it ever so slight. That's what looks best on these cars IMHO.

01-24-2021, 02:13 PM	#8
1JEWLDSSRS Drives: 2011 SS-RS Join Date: May 2011 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 11,472	Not to mention you will probably experience more wheel hop not that the weight is raised more to the front, and not centered as designed. __________________ TSP STAGE 3 CAM,231/246 @112 LSA 614/641 LIFT, CIRCLE D 5C-4200-4500 CONVERTER,LOD INTAKE.CORSA EXHAUST. DSS 1 PC DS. PEGASUS SOLID CRADLE MOUNTS. 486RWHP/475RWTQ.LOTS MORE.

01-24-2021, 02:38 PM	#10
TheFlyingBananaSS Evil Genius of Chevrolet Drives: 2017 Z06, 2019 XTS, 2013 SS Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: New York Posts: 3,260	The lines of the car just don't work with it. Imho. __________________ GPI SS2 VVT cam, ECS Novi 1500 supercharger, Corsa Extreme, Detroit Speed and BMR suspension, Circle D triple disc, Melling oil pump, LS2 chain tensioner, ATI 10% UD, DSX E85 kit, High Energy coils, BTR springs, LS2 Lifter trays, Titanium retainers, hardened push rods, FIC 1000 injectors, ZL1 pump, Mighty Mouse catch can, AEM gauges, Tial BOV, Richmond 3.91 gears, Custom gauge bezels, Speed Engineering headers, Stainless Works HF cats, DSX Aux pump, 710rwhp on E85.

01-24-2021, 02:42 PM	#11
Valkyrie14 Valkyrie14 Drives: Chevrolet Camaro SS Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Eau Claire, Wisconsin Posts: 962	I agree with you a little rake looks better! I also agree that going a little bigger in tire will complete the look. Wish I had the engineering skills to do this! __________________ 2014 SS LS3/LSA Supercharger, 10% Super Damper, 2.55 upper, AGP Dual Pump, ID 1050 injectors, Pegasus solid rear cradle bushings, LT Headers, Roto-Fab CAI, Elite E2 catch can, E85 corn fed, 160 Thermostat, Monster Twin Disk, MGW Short Throw shifter, Tick Clutch Master Cylinder, HP Tuners, JL Audio system.

01-24-2021, 07:39 PM	#14
oldman14ss Drives: 2014 1ss camaro Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: missouri Posts: 705	would the pinion angle be affected?