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Reminds me of my cyclone compared to 14 or earlier camaro. The handling is the key to track and displacement for the 1/4. I have a lot of suspension work to do on my new 16 GT that I did for my 14 3.7 pony. The Camaro is now top dog from the factory, I'll admit to that. Happy 50th Chevy Camaro!
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10-07-2016, 08:34 AM | #16 |
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10-07-2016, 08:51 AM | #18 |
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Price tags on cars isn't the end all be all meter anymore as far as performance goes like it use to be.. The Camaro SS is better then most Euro sports car that cost north of $80k.. Its a lot better then the BMW M4 for example. Not to knock the Shelby GT350 but just like those Euro cars your paying a premium for the name. Yes its a great track car but you can option out the Camaro SS to compete against it on the track for less money.
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10-07-2016, 09:42 AM | #19 | |
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Anyway, 112mph is 16.43' per .1 second or an 82.15' win margin. The GT is 15.69' long. That is 5.24 cars, not 10. Math is not asinine. The same could be said for the quarter mile as to the driver and day/track question on the road course claim. The 1LE has better tires and suspension than the base V6 that GM reports at 13.5 seconds. Car and Driver has the M6G at 13.0. Put a bad driver in the GT and a good one in the V6 1LE and the race is going to be closer. They cost about the same, a 5-6 car 1/4 win by the GT qualifies as a "few" to me. The road course win margin by the V6 1LE would be comparable as a few cars. The GT has classic American muscle car appeal, the V6 1LE has equal track rat appeal and will be more rare and visually distinct from other Camaros. The cool factor of the two cars is close depending on what you want from a performance car, it could go either way depending on your persuasion.
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10-07-2016, 10:09 AM | #20 | |
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Anyone that purchases a V6 camaro expecting to be able to keep up with a stock mustang GT is going to be sorely disappointed. As for my "easier to drive at the limits" comment, that was pointed at the track. In daily driver duty, the 99% aren't going to notice a difference, one way or the other. |
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10-07-2016, 10:33 AM | #21 |
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The numbers are time related as well, so the SS to GT win margin is mathematically about 7.5 cars. Pretty close to the IRL results.
As we don't have a solid 1/4 number published for the V6 1LE yet I don't see how either of us can prove it is .5 or .8 for sure. I'm assuming the auto trans published base V6 time will mirror a manual V6 1LE time with it's improvments. The fast list here doesn't show even one car for a V6 1/4 time, so GM's 1/4 time I think is appropriate to use. I'm just pointing out that the V6 1LE has more in common with a M6G GT than the GT has with a SS.
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10-07-2016, 10:40 AM | #22 | |
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C&D also did test a V6 A8 and got 13.7 out of it. Maybe C&D sucks at launching but still shows a huge gap.
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10-07-2016, 10:47 AM | #23 | |
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The GT posts a much more comparable ET and MPH to the 1SS than the V6 does to the GT. I don't think you realize just how much of an ass kicking 5 car-lengths is, let alone 7-8. |
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10-07-2016, 10:49 AM | #24 | |
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To my original point (not directed at anyone in here), as 100 people here to choose between comparably equipped V6 camaros and mustang GTs given the same price, I'd venture to say 95 of them would choose the mustang. Of those 5 choosing the camaro, it's likely because their insurance on the GT would be too high. |
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10-07-2016, 11:10 AM | #26 |
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Oh it's 2 bus lengths, it's big. I'm not using acceleration as the sole factor in comparing the models though.
If you want to use the 1/4 mile as the sole deciding factor though. Per C&D; SS=12.3, GT=13.0, base V6 = 13.7. The splits are the same according to those numbers. Which way is correct in commonality points? The whole package/scope of the car has a lot of other points Compared to the GT, the SS is too much $, handles better, dramatically better per the performance numbers (speed, braking, acceleration). Styling is subjective, slight edge to the SS. The only metric that the GT has a decided advantage over the V6 1LE is in the quarter. Most of the other variables are extremely close. In all other ways the GT is not comparable to an SS.
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10-08-2016, 10:24 PM | #28 | |
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Now with a little seat time the M6 SS drivers will own most stock Mustang M6 GT drivers. We do have the upper hand stock. But once the mods are added the Mustangs, even the S550s, seem to be faster.
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