Manual 1-4 shifting

TheSoundOfFreedom · 07-17-2018, 07:45 AM

Anybody else with the manual trans as sick and tired of the second gear lock out when it tries prompting a 1-4 shift as I am? Other than the thigh bolsters on the seats being really tight which isn’t horrible, just could be a tad wider but the second gear lock out is actually irritating to me. Is there any simple solution to disabling it?
Fuel economy isn’t anywhere near, let alone on my list of priorities.

Michael52 · 07-17-2018, 07:51 AM

Just take your revs a little higher in first and it will not happen. I have only seen it pop up 2 maybe 3 times and only when I have been coasting very slowly in first.

Lethal Z · 07-17-2018, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSoundOfFreedom

Anybody else with the manual trans as sick and tired of the second gear lock out when it tries prompting a 1-4 shift as I am? Other than the thigh bolsters on the seats being really tight which isn’t horrible, just could be a tad wider but the second gear lock out is actually irritating to me. Is there any simple solution to disabling it?
Fuel economy isn’t anywhere near, let alone on my list of priorities.

You can buy a plug in module that disables it, but the easiest solution is just to step on the gas pedal.

https://www.phastekperformance.com/2...SAAEgJmwfD_BwE

hawk02 · 07-17-2018, 08:01 AM

Shift from first to second above 19 mph and you'll never experience the second gear lock out.

TheSoundOfFreedom · 08-31-2018, 09:36 AM

Thanks for the replies fellas. Throttle input is of course the simplest solution not always possible depending on traffic conditions. I did see recently a few tuners that can disable it as stated above. Will definitely be doing that, the permanent solution.

Frisbey · 08-31-2018, 09:54 AM

Just shift at a slightly higher rpm, or
Double clutch, defeats it, or
Buy the skip,shift eliminator

It’s a ridiculous feature btw

SSDan · 08-31-2018, 10:25 AM

As you mentioned - it can be turned off permanently in the tune or you can install the eliminator cable. I did the tune out on my fifth gen and that was great. For my sixth gen I just shift above 19 mph or if I forget and hit the lockout i just shift to third. It will let you do that and third doesn't lug the engine like fourth.

nancygrl · 08-31-2018, 11:12 AM

When GM started the 1 to 4 shift on 6spds way back when.......Something I tried and worked back in 1996 with my 6spd Trans-Am was when I wasn't paying attention driving around town so when I felt a 2nd gear lock out, instead of going to 4th I tried going straight to 3rd instead, it let me do it and it didn't bog the car down as bad as going into 4th. It's something I've been doing ever since.

Raven87 · 08-31-2018, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SSDan

As you mentioned - it can be turned off permanently in the tune or you can install the eliminator cable. I did the tune out on my fifth gen and that was great. For my sixth gen I just shift above 19 mph or if I forget and hit the lockout i just shift to third. It will let you do that and third doesn't lug the engine like fourth.

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Originally Posted by nancygrl

When GM started the 1 to 4 shift on 6spds way back when.......Something I tried and worked back in 1996 with my 6spd Trans-Am was when I wasn't paying attention driving around town so when I felt a 2nd gear lock out, instead of going to 4th I tried going straight to 3rd instead, it let me do it and it didn't bog the car down as bad as going into 4th.

I was not aware of this! I will be trying it this evening and hope it works. I've always just shifted above 19 mph to avoid the aggravation.

nancygrl · 08-31-2018, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Raven87

I was not aware of this! I will be trying it this evening and hope it works. I've always just shifted above 19 mph to avoid the aggravation.

It worked on both of my 5th gen M6's...Not sure about 6th gen, I suppose it should..........For the short time I had the '17ZL1 it was never an issue

Raven87 · 08-31-2018, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by nancygrl

It worked on both of my 5th gen M6's...Not sure about 6th gen, I suppose it should..........For the short time I had the '17ZL1 it was never an issue

You had a ZL1 and went to the SS? Just curious as to why? Was there something about the ZL1 you did not like? I trade a lot/often too so I can understand!

nancygrl · 08-31-2018, 01:15 PM

I went back after being without a Camaro for 7 months, it happed to be a SS; a v6 RS would've been fine too....ZL1 was awesome, but I can have my Silverado 4x4 and Camaro for what the ZL1 cost.

avalonandl · 08-31-2018, 01:19 PM

First to third... works well!!!!

HDRDTD · 08-31-2018, 02:45 PM

FWIW, using a tune to disable it will void your warranty.
Installing the Skip Shift adapter cable is easy, quick, and only costs around $15-20 or so.

Skip Shift is designed to only engage under certain conditions, a combination of speed and throttle position. Shifting at a higher rpm will prevent it from engaging.

Even if on rare occasions it kicks in on my ZL1, I discovered that all you have to do is shift to neutral for a second, pause, then slip it into second. Piece of cake.

Pick a solution for you.

07-17-2018, 07:45 AM	#1
TheSoundOfFreedom Drives: 2018 ZL1, Garnet Red Tintoat, 6spd Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: South Eastern Massachusetts Posts: 9	Manual 1-4 shifting Anybody else with the manual trans as sick and tired of the second gear lock out when it tries prompting a 1-4 shift as I am? Other than the thigh bolsters on the seats being really tight which isn’t horrible, just could be a tad wider but the second gear lock out is actually irritating to me. Is there any simple solution to disabling it? Fuel economy isn’t anywhere near, let alone on my list of priorities.

07-17-2018, 08:01 AM	#4
hawk02 Coupe Newbie Drives: 2017 ZL1, 2021 Corvette Convertible Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 3,279 View My Garage	Shift from first to second above 19 mph and you'll never experience the second gear lock out. __________________

08-31-2018, 09:54 AM	#6
Frisbey Drives: 2018 Camaro ZL1 Nightfall Grey Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Whidbey Island, Wa. Posts: 367	Just shift at a slightly higher rpm, or Double clutch, defeats it, or Buy the skip,shift eliminator It’s a ridiculous feature btw __________________ 1100 - 10/28/17 Ordered 1100 - 02/02/18 cancelled, Re-ordered from BeckyD 1100 - 02/02/18 \| 3400 - 02/14/18 TPW 2/19 2000 - 02/06/18 \| 4300 - 02/20/18 Built 3000 - 02/07/18 \| 5000 - 03/08/18 At Dealer 3100 - 02/09/18 \| Delivered

08-31-2018, 10:25 AM	#7
SSDan Drives: 2016 1SS 6MT NPP Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Lake Murray, SC Posts: 2,243 View My Garage	As you mentioned - it can be turned off permanently in the tune or you can install the eliminator cable. I did the tune out on my fifth gen and that was great. For my sixth gen I just shift above 19 mph or if I forget and hit the lockout i just shift to third. It will let you do that and third doesn't lug the engine like fourth. __________________ 2016 Camaro 1SS Hyper Blue 6MT NPP 2010 Camaro 2SS Cam/Headers/CAI/3.91 gears 476 rwhp/440 rwtq (sold)

08-31-2018, 11:12 AM	#8
nancygrl 雪の玉 Drives: '22 Z71 RST Silverado Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: South Posts: 3,415	When GM started the 1 to 4 shift on 6spds way back when.......Something I tried and worked back in 1996 with my 6spd Trans-Am was when I wasn't paying attention driving around town so when I felt a 2nd gear lock out, instead of going to 4th I tried going straight to 3rd instead, it let me do it and it didn't bog the car down as bad as going into 4th. It's something I've been doing ever since. Last edited by nancygrl; 08-31-2018 at 11:23 AM.

07-17-2018, 07:51 AM	#2
Michael52 Drives: 2018 Black ZL1, 1977 Yellow 308GTB Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Toronto Posts: 125	Just take your revs a little higher in first and it will not happen. I have only seen it pop up 2 maybe 3 times and only when I have been coasting very slowly in first.

08-31-2018, 09:36 AM	#5
TheSoundOfFreedom Drives: 2018 ZL1, Garnet Red Tintoat, 6spd Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: South Eastern Massachusetts Posts: 9	Thanks for the replies fellas. Throttle input is of course the simplest solution not always possible depending on traffic conditions. I did see recently a few tuners that can disable it as stated above. Will definitely be doing that, the permanent solution.

08-31-2018, 01:15 PM	#12
nancygrl 雪の玉 Drives: '22 Z71 RST Silverado Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: South Posts: 3,415	I went back after being without a Camaro for 7 months, it happed to be a SS; a v6 RS would've been fine too....ZL1 was awesome, but I can have my Silverado 4x4 and Camaro for what the ZL1 cost.

08-31-2018, 01:19 PM	#13
avalonandl Drives: 2019 ZL-1 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Troy, MI & Naples, FL Posts: 2,019	First to third... works well!!!! __________________ 2019 ZL-1 Acquired 4/23/21 at 6300 miles. Riverside Blue, A10, PDR. Traded in 2017 2SS with 6M and 32k miles. Continental Extreme Contact Sports. Now has 10,000 miles... 2012 Yukon XL Denali w/ 6.2 AWD

08-31-2018, 02:45 PM	#14
HDRDTD Drives: 2013 Triple Black ZL1 Vert M6 ECF Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Trenton, Michigan Posts: 7,047	FWIW, using a tune to disable it will void your warranty. Installing the Skip Shift adapter cable is easy, quick, and only costs around $15-20 or so. Skip Shift is designed to only engage under certain conditions, a combination of speed and throttle position. Shifting at a higher rpm will prevent it from engaging. Even if on rare occasions it kicks in on my ZL1, I discovered that all you have to do is shift to neutral for a second, pause, then slip it into second. Piece of cake. Pick a solution for you.

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