[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by PDXSSCE

It's interesting that their response focuses on being the truck sales leader but doesn't address the results of the test.

Yup.

And in the end, they have a point. It is a marketing stunt for sure. The problem is, it's a marketing stunt that could very well happen in the real world, maybe not cinder blocks dropped from 5 feet into the truck bed, but the tool box being thrown in is.

I'm curious if it actually has happened in real life...

[SpeedIsLife]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Yup.

And in the end, they have a point. It is a marketing stunt for sure. The problem is, it's a marketing stunt that could very well happen in the real world, maybe not cinder blocks dropped from 5 feet into the truck bed, but the tool box being thrown in is.

I'm curious if it actually has happened in real life...

It has, just in a more extreme case. Down the road from my work building in downtown Portland they've been doing extensive renovations on some buildings. Apparently a big 36X48 toolbox got knocked off a second story landing and ended up smashing into a 2015 F150's bed and punched a 12X18 hole straight into it...granted the toolbox was also about 300lbs

[xc_SS/RS]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Yup.

And in the end, they have a point. It is a marketing stunt for sure. The problem is, it's a marketing stunt that could very well happen in the real world, maybe not cinder blocks dropped from 5 feet into the truck bed, but the tool box being thrown in is.

I'm curious if it actually has happened in real life...

It has to have happened by now but that's crazy how the Ford bed could be punctured if something is dropped into the bed or tossed into it with enough weight/force.

I could see GM doing steel in the bed that's welded to aluminum either higher up on the sides of the bed or to the rear 3/4 panels.

[PDXSSCE]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Yup.

And in the end, they have a point. It is a marketing stunt for sure. The problem is, it's a marketing stunt that could very well happen in the real world, maybe not cinder blocks dropped from 5 feet into the truck bed, but the tool box being thrown in is.

I'm curious if it actually has happened in real life...

It's already trending as a top news story on Yahoo.

[Bhobbs]

Aluminum is definitely the future for GM trucks and they will need the spin team in full effect once they roll out aluminum GM trucks. However, Ford has been running the "military grade" bullshit for their aluminum, trying to make it sound like its some super strong alloy. Military grade is meaningless when you don't take into account what the military was using the aluminum for. The M16 uses aluminum receivers, but the parts that take all the stress are still steel.

I pray to whatever deity is listening that GM uses a steel bed, for at least the floor and walls.

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

Aluminum is definitely the future for GM trucks and they will need the spin team in full effect once they roll out aluminum GM trucks. However, Ford has been running the "military grade" bullshit for their aluminum, trying to make it sound like its some super strong alloy. Military grade is meaningless when you don't take into account what the military was using the aluminum for. The M16 uses aluminum receivers, but the parts that take all the stress are still steel.

I pray to whatever deity is listening that GM uses a steel bed, for at least the floor and walls.

What gets me is when they say that BS they show a picture of a Tank... As far as I know Tanks do not have their bodies or armor made of aluminum.. To me that is false advertizing.

[SpeedIsLife]

Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

What gets me is when they say that BS they show a picture of a Tank... As far as I know Tanks do not have their bodies or armor made of aluminum.. To me that is false advertizing.

Tanks typically don't, but vehicles that aren't expected to stop HEAT (high explosive anti-tank) or depleted uranium sabot penetrators (IE main battle tanks and some heavy IFV's) do use thick aluminum plates for armor. Example being the latest up-armor kits for hummers use half-inch high strength aluminum. it's also used for some structural elements in ships such as frigates and destroyers where weight and top-heavy characteristics are of concern.

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

What gets me is when they say that BS they show a picture of a Tank... As far as I know Tanks do not have their bodies or armor made of aluminum.. To me that is false advertizing.

The M551 Sheridan used aluminum armor, but it's hardly a tank. The vehicle they showed looked like an M2/3 Bradley, which doesn't use aluminum armor. It uses layered composite armor. Their may be aluminum in it but it's not entirely aluminum.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

The M551 Sheridan used aluminum armor, but it's hardly a tank. The vehicle they showed looked like an M2/3 Bradley, which doesn't use aluminum armor. It uses layered composite armor. Their may be aluminum in it but it's not entirely aluminum.

Why, because it could be dropped from a plane & could fire missiles from its main gun? The air drop thing makes a certain amount of sense. And the Sheridan probably did a better job at being an air-deployed tank than the Tetrarch of WWII.

Shooting missiles from the gun on the other hand ... ? Why not just stick a couple launchers on the outside of the turret, similar to what ended up happening on the Bradley? Seems like that would have been a much better solution to give the tank some anti-armour punch.




Anyway, it was still a tank. A light tank, sure. But a tank none the less. It just put a lot more emphasis on the mobility part of the tank design triangle (firepower, protection, and mobility). But thats just the nature of a light tank.

[FenwickHockey65]

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/20...n-108352.html#

2018 Equinox. With a bird.

[FenwickHockey65]

Express/Savana cutaway production outsourced to Navistar to free up production capacity for midsize trucks at Wentzville.

[SS 1LE]

Any word on any performance version of the new Cruze?

[FenwickHockey65]

Nothing solid.

[Goblue1313]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Nothing solid.

Is the nothing solid thought to be a 2017 or 2018?