08-02-2020, 01:19 PM | #1 |
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Low side fueling
Any one find an in-tank solution for fueling, specifically for people who like to go to track days? The side to side motions make DSX or other add-on solutions less than ideal for track work. Anyone figure out anything? Or find a fuel cell with surge tank? Or add on surge/bucket? Or better pick up? Anyone tried or heard about using what the ZR1 uses for fueling on the low side?
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08-02-2020, 03:06 PM | #2 |
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Call me old school.....I just fill up the tank everytime I go out!
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08-02-2020, 03:27 PM | #3 |
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I realize I should clarify.
If you want to add performance parts, low side can run out quickly in the turns on a track due to fuel movement. DSX or similar aren’t a viable choice for this. Not aware of any good solutions, so I was asking if anyone knew of one. Anyone get Fore to work? Other drop in? Fuel cell with surge? Better pick up (like a mat)? Some other solution? ZR1 pump maybe? |
08-02-2020, 07:37 PM | #4 | |
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I hear you, understood what you were talking about! Like I said, fill up the tank everytime you go out for a track session and you don't have to worry about adding some aftermarket part to the fuel system. I don't think there is any other viable solution. But I am sure others "in the know" will chime in! |
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08-03-2020, 10:14 PM | #5 |
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I don't think that is an issue with this car. I thought we had dual pickups for just that purpose but I may be wrong. But coming from another platform (Evo) that needed it, I have not heard of fuel starvation issues to include myself who have ran it pretty low.
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08-03-2020, 10:25 PM | #6 |
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If you want a serious cell, pumps and surge tank solution for hardcore racing, you could go all out with something like this. If you go big power you'll also need a pump at the rail or cam, and big injectors...
http://www.radiumauto.com/FCST-Fuel-...ank-P1497.aspx |
08-04-2020, 08:56 AM | #7 | |
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How many laps are you doing at a time? The best option is to keep the tank full. After market dual in tank pumps are usually too big to have a bucket (Fore). Without a bucket you will starve with a low tank and G's in any direction really. Squash pumps for the 5gen still retain a bucket but they don't have a kit out for the 6gen just yet. I just asked if he had any plans to come out with a kit. How much power are you making? |
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08-04-2020, 01:01 PM | #8 |
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I wonder if you could modify the fuel pick up for the DSX kit, to pick up the fuel from the bucket.
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08-04-2020, 02:22 PM | #9 |
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You already asked this and should have added this, a Holley Hydramat could solve this. I dont know about the pumps in the Fore kit but you can get adapters for many pumps that allow you to connect a -6 AN fitting for connection to a Hydramat. I did this in my Evo X using a Walbro pump.
If this is feasible, it's a simple solution that could use all existing parts and fix issue for less than other options. These are actually very hard to find and this might not work because pump/sock is located close to bottom of tank for obvious reasons, unless you angle one or both pumps away from housing for clearance. Radium stopped making their better solution. https://www.ebay.com/p/888791109 Last edited by SFV1LE; 08-04-2020 at 02:42 PM. |
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08-04-2020, 05:20 PM | #12 |
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The mat would help solve starvation issues, but still does not address overall low side fuel supply. That’s why I am asking if anyone has come across or devised a comprehensive solution to address fuel pick up and supply for a higher horsepower application for road course use.
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08-04-2020, 05:29 PM | #13 | |
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http://www.radiumauto.com/FCST-Fuel-...ank-P1497.aspx Last edited by SFV1LE; 08-04-2020 at 05:59 PM. |
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08-04-2020, 10:39 PM | #14 | |
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I saw your suggestion and appreciate it. Have you seen or known anyone to have done this and created a successful solution? Any links to their build? |
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