08-03-2020, 09:59 PM | #1 |
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DSSV versus Magnetic Ride..my review
Well I just completed my second track day with the new dssv shocks. I'm currently running Hotchkis front sway bar and BMR rear bar. The first day at the track I had the front and rear bar on full soft. I was getting some mid-corner oversteer. But this time I set the front sway bar on medium. That oversteer was completely gone. I was able to break my personal best the first track day. Today was the second time out with new setup but this time front sway bar was in the middle position. Broke my personal best again. I know there's been some conversation about the spool valve dssv shocks and whether they're worth the money and effort I can say without a doubt for me it's substantially better than the stock Magnetic Ride shocks
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08-04-2020, 01:44 AM | #2 |
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Thanks for the review, if you don’t mind me asking, how much did you break your PB by?
I believe I recall some other forum members who owned ZL1’s saying that they improved by a half a second switching to the entire FEA suspension not just the shocks/springs. Just to be clarify, you only changed the MRC to the DSSV?
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08-04-2020, 06:23 AM | #3 | |
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A truly fantastic, yet very involved build. https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showt...=528652&page=6 Nicky Bobby, congrats on the PB! Was it on the new motor?! |
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08-04-2020, 09:44 AM | #4 | |
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I have Hotchkis front bar on medium and BMR rear bar on soft. Prior track day I had front bar on soft and was causing slight mid turn oversteer. With front on medium it's near perfect! Need to control oil temps, 297F Running this http://www.improvedracing.com/improv...ler-p-886.html |
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08-04-2020, 09:48 AM | #5 | |
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More importantly then time was that I can push the car to the limit and feel more confidence! |
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08-04-2020, 11:17 AM | #6 |
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Interesting, thanks!
I'm not surprised though, MRC uses softer springs and stiffer damping vs what may be ideal to achieve the "track" setting. Unless the system can increase spring rate as well as damping characteristics it's a compromise to enable the adjustability. Doesn't make much sense for a pure race car, but "Tour" mode is nice for cruising on the highway!
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08-04-2020, 12:17 PM | #7 | |
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I am assuming that increase confidence comes from the shocks re-composing themselves faster than the MRC, once upset?
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08-04-2020, 12:24 PM | #8 | |
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It is the weirdest feeling at first when you are used to a sports suspension being stiff from the get-go. The SS 1LE springs are rather soft and this makes it feel a bit sloppy in the 1-15 MPH range, especially when going over a large speed-bump. Most sports cars are tightly sprung and feel very solid in that range. It comes into its own though as the speeds builds. One of the first thing I noticed when I started pushing my car harder and going faster, is that the damping and control stayed the same, even as the speeds increased. 110 MPH feels the same as 60 MPH. In most sports cars with a traditional set-up, the faster you go, the more intense things get.
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08-04-2020, 06:37 PM | #9 | |
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Ricky Bobby said the same thing (of course). And this is also true for a fantastically balanced SS 1LE: it is easy to push to the limit. And that's what makes for a fast performer, especially for us amateurs. I also agree with Dave, the Tour mode is truly fantastic for DD, or going to/from track. I had streeted my Vette track car for a very short period and it was a very trying experience. Zero fun! Ended up with a trailer Cheers! |
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08-04-2020, 06:38 PM | #10 | |
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08-04-2020, 10:44 PM | #11 |
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Great news! Your car is going to be the blueprint for a lot of the Camaro racers.
I've got my front Hotchkis and rear BMR bars arriving this week per your suggestions along with some APEX 19's and either GY GSC3R's or Hoosiers. I'll likely stay FE4 though but car diet, race seats, etc. this winter. |
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