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Old 11-30-2013, 10:23 AM   #1
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2014 Camaro.. Why is GM changing a Good thing

GM hit a home run with the 2010-2013.. looks very similar to the 69, round headlights.. why not offer true hide away lights that open and close on an RS model...

Why would they change it to look like a late 80s IROC slanted nose car which no First Gens resembled only to eventually lose sales?

The new lights front and rear look just like the IROC.. Not sure why they would change the cool round headlight to the 2014.. and now they want to make it a weird bubble car?

History repeats itself...

Look for the IROC label on the doors soon,, maybe a hatch that will fall and hit you in the head when the struts fail... or guess what.. the fake grills in the hood.. oh .. they brought that back in 2014..

SERIOUSLY?
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Old 11-30-2013, 11:59 AM   #2
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The hood grille in the 2014 is actually functional unlike the fake one in the mail slot of 10-13.
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Old 11-30-2013, 12:05 PM   #3
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2014 Camaro.. Why is GM changing a Good thing

Hideaway headlights for meet today's safety standards, you won't see them unfortunately.

And you won't see the IROC label anywhere because the racing class doesn't exist anymore.
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Old 11-30-2013, 12:30 PM   #4
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GM hit a home run with the 2010-2013.. looks very similar to the 69, round headlights.. why not offer true hide away lights that open and close on an RS model...

Why would they change it to look like a late 80s IROC slanted nose car which no First Gens resembled only to eventually lose sales?

The new lights front and rear look just like the IROC.. Not sure why they would change the cool round headlight to the 2014.. and now they want to make it a weird bubble car?

History repeats itself...

Look for the IROC label on the doors soon,, maybe a hatch that will fall and hit you in the head when the struts fail... or guess what.. the fake grills in the hood.. oh .. they brought that back in 2014..

SERIOUSLY?

Troll??
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Old 11-30-2013, 12:31 PM   #5
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Hideaway headlights for meet today's safety standards, you won't see them unfortunately.

And you won't see the IROC label anywhere because the racing class doesn't exist anymore.
Why do you say that? A panel covering the headlamps would meet Federal standards.
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Old 11-30-2013, 12:55 PM   #6
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The 2014 Camaro isn't a 6th gen.
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Old 11-30-2013, 01:05 PM   #7
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GM hit a home run with the 2010-2013.. looks very similar to the 69, round headlights.. why not offer true hide away lights that open and close on an RS model...

Why would they change it to look like a late 80s IROC slanted nose car which no First Gens resembled only to eventually lose sales?

The new lights front and rear look just like the IROC.. Not sure why they would change the cool round headlight to the 2014.. and now they want to make it a weird bubble car?

History repeats itself...

Look for the IROC label on the doors soon,, maybe a hatch that will fall and hit you in the head when the struts fail... or guess what.. the fake grills in the hood.. oh .. they brought that back in 2014..

SERIOUSLY?
Agree with others, either your a troll or way off.

There is nothing that reminds me of my 86' IROC Z on my 14' 1LE.
I had a 2010 and prefer my 2014 over it by leaps and bounds.
GM hit a home run with the 14' 1LE period.
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Old 11-30-2013, 02:09 PM   #8
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I know a LOT of people on this site don't want to hear it because they bought a 2010-2013 Camaro because that's what they liked, but the 5th gen's design is getting dated. The 5th gen's design has been around since January 2006. The refresh was needed - badly. I love my 2012 and think it's one of the best looking cars on the road, but the 2014 just looks sleeker, meaner, and better.

There's a lot of people who didn't like the looks of the 5th gen 2010-2013 but now like the 2014 and that's a home run - people who didn't like the 2010-2013 going in and buying 2014s is a GREAT thing.

Frankly, all of these threads dogging on the 2014 are damned annoying to see and really ruin the site. Can we start banning these trolls?
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Old 11-30-2013, 02:14 PM   #9
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I know a LOT of people on this site don't want to hear it because they bought a 2010-2013 Camaro because that's what they liked, but the 5th gen's design is getting dated. The 5th gen's design has been around since January 2006. The refresh was needed - badly. I love my 2012 and think it's one of the best looking cars on the road, but the 2014 just looks sleeker, meaner, and better.

There's a lot of people who didn't like the looks of the 5th gen 2010-2013 but now like the 2014 and that's a home run - people who didn't like the 2010-2013 going in and buying 2014s is a GREAT thing.

Frankly, all of these threads dogging on the 2014 are damned annoying to see and really ruin the site. Can we start banning these trolls?
Agree totally!
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I know a LOT of people on this site don't want to hear it because they bought a 2010-2013 Camaro because that's what they liked, but the 5th gen's design is getting dated. The 5th gen's design has been around since January 2006. The refresh was needed - badly. I love my 2012 and think it's one of the best looking cars on the road, but the 2014 just looks sleeker, meaner, and better.

There's a lot of people who didn't like the looks of the 5th gen 2010-2013 but now like the 2014 and that's a home run - people who didn't like the 2010-2013 going in and buying 2014s is a GREAT thing.

Frankly, all of these threads dogging on the 2014 are damned annoying to see and really ruin the site. Can we start banning these trolls?
Exactly right - the 2014 is a much needed refresh, and a great move by GM.
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Old 11-30-2013, 02:26 PM   #11
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All I know is that when I saw the 5th gen' concept in 2008, I said to myself, "I will have the new Camaro." Now I do and that's all that matters to me.
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Old 11-30-2013, 02:46 PM   #12
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I have only seen the 2014 once , I actually drove to the dealership to look at them today and they do not have or ever had one to look at ??? Anyone else got a dealership with no 2014's on the lot ?
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Old 11-30-2013, 04:24 PM   #13
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First off, this is the 6th gen section...why is this here?

I do agree that a refresh was a good thing...its good to keep things interesting by making some changes every 3 or 4 years. It keeps the model fresh and selling until the next gen comes along.

As for the 2014 Camaro...the front end is growing on me. In some shots it looks awesome and maybe even better than the 10-13s....in others I think "ehhhh". I think it depends highly on the angle your viewing it, and on what trim. The 2010 - 2013 models I didn't feel this way. Sure I felt as RS or SS looked better than a basic V6, but I felt they all looked pretty good.

The rear of the 2014 will never grow on me. That isn't jealousy speaking...its just the truth. I don't think its horribly ugly, but I don't care for it as much as the 10s - 13s. Never will.

Now...bring on the 6th gen!
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GM hit a home run with the 2010-2013.. looks very similar to the 69, round headlights.. why not offer true hide away lights that open and close on an RS model...

Why would they change it to look like a late 80s IROC slanted nose car which no First Gens resembled only to eventually lose sales?

The new lights front and rear look just like the IROC.. Not sure why they would change the cool round headlight to the 2014.. and now they want to make it a weird bubble car?

History repeats itself...

Look for the IROC label on the doors soon,, maybe a hatch that will fall and hit you in the head when the struts fail... or guess what.. the fake grills in the hood.. oh .. they brought that back in 2014..

SERIOUSLY?
Yes.

Seriously.

LEt's discuss your various comments.....

1. Headlamp doors. Many people feel that the 5th gen is too heavy.
Adding headlamp doors would add about 25-40 pounds with all the necessary
hardware and such....plus, I've yet to see a 1st gen Camaro with headlamp
doors that didn't have alignment problems with the doors to the grille.

2. I've not heard a comment until yours that the 2014 looks like an IROC.
Interesting tidbit ABOUT the IROC. We held Product Clinics in Atlanta and DAllas
several years back. We broke them up in groups of 20 - for a total of about 2500 people.
After about 2 and a half hours, we showed each member of the group photos of the
35 years of Camaro. We asked them to pick ONE Camaro that represented the 'ultimate'
Camaro - when Chevrolet got the product 'right'.

I was simply stunned with the answer....

nearly 90% of men and women chose the 1985 IROC.......!! Go figure. So - while you
might not like the 3rd gen car - it appears many more do!

3. A bubble car? The sheet metal on the 2014 is virtually the same as the 2010-2013,
other than the deck lid.........so I'm not sure what you're looking at.....

4. No hatch.

5. IROC won't be back at least for the forseeable future REGARDLESS of the fact
that people continue to ask us to use the name. We do not own it. SCCA does and the series
is no longer being run....(curious: do YOU know what it stands for?)

6. The "Fake grilles" in the hood as you call them are actually functional.....they aren't fake as you claim.......................

Lastly - you mention that the 5th gen looks like the 1st gen. When the car was designed, it was designed as a modern sports coupe...with a few classic styling cues. I think that's the magic of the 5th gen.......for old guys like me, we see the classic styling cues....while younger buyers don't see a retro-car ......rather, they see a 'kick-butt' looking car that turns heads no matter where you go. I've had people say "YOU GUYS SHOULD HAVE MADE THE CAR MORE LIKE THE 1969 CAMARO!....." - to which I question: "you mean, like Dodge did with their Challenger?...................so we could sell LESS cars????"


Just wanted to give you some serious facts on your remarks....

Some are questioning if you're a troll. I don't think you are.............but I do want to give you some stuff to consider.............
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