[ilirg]

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

So, we have one case of it not suffering from overheating and other temperature issues..

And another where it did (Randy P's run where the Oil Temp caused him to shut down).

Time will tell.

Several other threads on there if people tracking the z06 with no issues

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by NASTY99Z28

It's fast but for how many laps? I'm sorry but the intercooling and blower on the lt4 are a huge let down. Gm swore they had it figured out. Clearly they lied. We all expected heat soak but not like it has proven in such a short time.

Fact is, GM has a lot more experience building supercharged track cars than Ford does flat plane crank engines. Time will tell. Given Chevy's recent track record (pun intended), I'm not worried

[NASTY99Z28]

Originally Posted by hotlapZL1

Fact is, GM has a lot more experience building supercharged track cars than Ford does flat plane crank engines. Time will tell. Given Chevy's recent track record (pun intended), I'm not worried

They do yet they still went with a smaller blower that creates more heat without being able to control temps. Look at the issues the zl1 had with the 1.9. The vette itself forced them to go smaller and that's a bad move. You dont force induct a "track" car and if you do you don't put the smallest parts you can find on it. The "GT" will be a record break you can bet that. The vette needs to go mid engine and let the camaro variants range from a turbo4 to a "unrestricted" forced inducted gt500 fighter.

[SEVEN-OH JOE]

Originally Posted by NASTY99Z28

You dont force induct a "track" car

Gosh , I thought the all-conquering 917-934-935-962 Porsches were boosted. And all those Roush-IMSA variants. Must have been a bad dream.

The "GT" will be a record break[er,] you can bet that.

At what? It WILL make a great 50th Anniversary present to itself. Just like the last one was a present to its benefactor.

The vette needs to go mid engine

And leave 1,000s of loyal annual purchasers behind? Ford wishes they had those extra dollars to play with. The dollars GM will use to help create the "Zora".

let the camaro variants range from a turbo4 to a[n] "unrestricted" forced inducted [sic] gt500 fighter.

You're likely to get your wish on this one. After all, who reveals first? GT500 or "unrestricted" HP Camaro? This time, like last, going second could again make the "follower" the "leader". It'll work well for the GT350-R killer as well.

[Bhobbs]

I got bored and looked up the GT350 transmission, which is the TR3160. It's 121 lbs but only has a torque capacity of 405 lb ft so I don't see the GT350 making anywhere near the torque of the LS7 but, if the weight rumors are true, it won't need to.

Originally Posted by SEVEN-OH JOE

You're likely to get your wish on this one. After all, who reveals first? GT500 or "unrestricted" HP Camaro? This time, like last, going second could again make the "follower" the "leader". It'll work well for the GT350-R killer as well.

It would work if the ZL1 was going to get a one off engine but that isn't the case. It's getting the LT4 and won't make more than 650 hp.

[SEVEN-OH JOE]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

It would work if the ZL1 was going to get a one off engine but that isn't the case. It's getting the LT4 and won't make more than 650 hp.

And you have that, signed in blood with who's signature, from GM?

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by SEVEN-OH JOE

And you have that, signed in blood with who's signature, from GM?

Basically. It's called the 2016 CTS-V.

[Todd in Vancouver]

Firstly I absolutely Love the look of the GT350 & (R) versions and will defintely look at a test drive next time I'm shopping a replacement. While the speed and track abaility are very aluring the released slides today of the complexity of the FPC 5.2 GT350 engine is concerning and it will be interesting to see the longevity and reliability of that motor. Also how is Ford going to deal with the warranty for those of us who actually track our cars and not garage queen them.

Maybe our LS/LT engines may be a bit lower on factory specs but they are race proven reliable and straight forward to mod and repair. I'll take a few less HP for the day after day frind we put our cars through without a second thought.

Holy Cr@p just look at the timing chains on this thing.


http://www.hotrod.com/news/first-loo...#__federated=1

[Fenderaddict2]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

GM may be working on a Camaro but don't have the proper engine to take on the GT350. It seems more likely it will be just the LT1 and LT4 than anything else. No one has heard any rumors about a new engine being developed and it would have to be pretty far along for it to be in a Camaro soon.

We don't know if there is a Zora coming. All we saw were some spy shots of what may be a mid engine car that may or may not be a Corvette. It might not be a Chevy at all.

Is it just me, or is Ford really playing up the MOTOR part of the Ford Motor Company lately? Roadrunner, Trinity, Hummingbird, Phoenix?

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by Fenderaddict2

Is it just me, or is Ford really playing up the MOTOR part of the Ford Motor Company lately? Roadrunner, Trinity, Hummingbird, Phoenix?

I don't know if I would even say lately. Looking back, they built the 5.4 in the 00 Cobra R, the 4.6 supercharged in the Terminator and Lightning around the same time. Seems Ford is more willing to try different engines than Chevy.

[SEVEN-OH JOE]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

Basically. It's called the 2016 CTS-V.

The CTS-V is the most powerful car in its Class. It doesn't really need 700+ hp. And no one has said the LT-series engines are "all done" in LT4 form at "only 650 hp." In fact, there's more than one source suggesting 700+ in this architecture is "possible, if necessary".

Class-appropriate competition will determine what is "necessary". Always has, and always will.

[xc_SS/RS]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

I got bored and looked up the GT350 transmission, which is the TR3160. It's 121 lbs but only has a torque capacity of 405 lb ft so I don't see the GT350 making anywhere near the torque of the LS7 but, if the weight rumors are true, it won't need to.

Wait does it really have a torque capacity of 405 lb-ft? Could that be why we haven't seen power figures yet? Seems like that may be a bit of an issue and hold things back a bit.

[SpeedIsLife]

Originally Posted by xc_SS/RS

Wait does it really have a torque capacity of 405 lb-ft? Could that be why we haven't seen power figures yet? Seems like that may be a bit of an issue and hold things back a bit.

405 Ft LB's based on a 6,000LB vehicle.

Just like how the MT82 is limited to "only 390 ft lbs" of torque..but then everyone fails to mention "in a 10,000lb vehicle".

[NASTY99Z28]

Originally Posted by SEVEN-OH JOE

Gosh , I thought the all-conquering 917-934-935-962 Porsches were boosted. And all those Roush-IMSA variants. Must have been a bad dream.

At what? It WILL make a great 50th Anniversary present to itself. Just like the last one was a present to its benefactor.

And leave 1,000s of loyal annual purchasers behind? Ford wishes they had those extra dollars to play with. The dollars GM will use to help create the "Zora".

You're likely to get your wish on this one. After all, who reveals first? GT500 or "unrestricted" HP Camaro? This time, like last, going second could again make the "follower" the "leader". It'll work well for the GT350-R killer as well.

1. Are you really gonna argue the n/a vs forced induction with a Porsche? Yes it can be mad to work but not with tiny ass blowers. That you can't argue.

2. If you think the "gt" won't be a amazing car with crazy numbers you are just fooling yourself.

3. If priced properly the "vette" crowd will follow. Those buyers have a good amount of disposable income anyways.

4. Even at 650-700hp the lt4 better hope it can hang with what Ford brings out. Unless gm manages to make a lighter car. (Never happen)