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View Poll Results: Should the Bowtie be moved up to the grille on the SS?
Yes...move it up. 220 95.24%
Nope...leave it as is. 11 4.76%
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Old 04-09-2018, 07:28 PM   #43
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GM has offered and continues to offer different grilles for the Camaro - not immediately, usually, but they do come. Even if they want to keep this as the stock grille (much as I disagree with that decision), a low-cost option for a body color-painted version of the black section with no pseudo-flowtie and the SS emblem & options for more traditional bowties in their normal places would I think go a long way to placating some of the outrage around here.

Given the majority opinions expressed so far, it'd be in their interest to accelerate that design & production process.
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Old 04-09-2018, 08:00 PM   #44
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Why is this bow-tie crowding the top?...I think it would look better one row down centered in the grille....

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Old 04-09-2018, 08:00 PM   #45
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As mentioned, i would hate to live in a state that requires front tag. Only one spot to place. Where will a tag go if flowtag remains center? Would have to go on side.
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Old 04-09-2018, 08:01 PM   #46
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I like this version better.
The large dimples (if you can call those that) in the bumper just look a little awkward. Overall, the front end looks a lot better with the bowtie up.
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Old 04-09-2018, 08:03 PM   #47
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That Gabe version looks sick. I like
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Old 04-09-2018, 08:26 PM   #48
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Here it is with black bowties, and front perspective
Now that looks awesome! Looks classier than the 2016 to 18 but still aggressive and looks like a camaro. This version breaks up the ridiculous smiley face and dumb cheek bones.
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Old 04-09-2018, 08:59 PM   #49
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Sadly it's a flowtie, so you have to replace or cover the whole center of the bumper
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Old 04-10-2018, 04:11 PM   #50
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Well.....132 votes to 5 currently.

So...anyone from GM seeing this yet?

Maybe this needs to go more public.
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Old 04-10-2018, 04:19 PM   #51
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How about this
Best one right here in post #22.

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Well.....132 votes to 5 currently.

So...anyone from GM seeing this yet?

Maybe this needs to go more public.
Chevrolet is listening I am sure. Whether they choose to ignore or not???
Most every site lit up yesterday with how hideous the CBS reveal was initially.
These are not low budget cars where details don't matter so much. When transaction prices
are in the mid $30's thru low $50's pending model, would think they would be paying attention.
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Old 04-10-2018, 04:20 PM   #52
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The as released fascia is terrible. I can handle the back, looks ok. I do think the black center strip with the bow tie in the upper grill looks good. Would look great that way on a 1LE.
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Old 04-10-2018, 04:31 PM   #53
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Best one right here in post #22.



Chevrolet is listening I am sure. Whether they choose to ignore or not???
Most every site lit up yesterday with how hideous the CBS reveal was initially.
These are not low budget cars where details don't matter so much. When transaction prices
are in the mid $30's thru low $50's pending model, would think they would be paying attention.

What's even more telling is that Chevy chose to reveal it on some morning network tv show- the dinosaur media. I get that manufacturers think the big auto shows aren't worth the investment but c'mon. Zero excitement. I guess since they did it for the initial Gen 6 reveal maybe they see some metric we don't. Perhaps the dinosaur media audience is who Chevy is chasing now . . .

Chevy's FB page has blown up over this. The autoblog comments are negative. The carscoop poll is not favorable. I am not holding my breath that anything will be done. I think GM wants to corporatize the Camaro's face. A dumbed down bone head mass audience as George Costanza would say. Why else would it look like a Toyota or Honda appliance? I just don't get how now it looks nothing like a Camaro. It has become a Malibu sport coupe.
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Old 04-10-2018, 04:46 PM   #54
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What's even more telling is that Chevy chose to reveal it on some morning network tv show- the dinosaur media. I get that manufacturers think the big auto shows aren't worth the investment but c'mon. Zero excitement. I guess since they did it for the initial Gen 6 reveal maybe they see some metric we don't. Perhaps the dinosaur media audience is who Chevy is chasing now . . .

Chevy's FB page has blown up over this. The autoblog comments are negative. The carscoop poll is not favorable. I am not holding my breath that anything will be done. I think GM wants to corporatize the Camaro's face. A dumbed down bone head mass audience as George Costanza would say. Why else would it look like a Toyota or Honda appliance? I just don't get how now it looks nothing like a Camaro. It has become a Malibu sport coupe.
Yeah they did the 2014 reveal on a talk show too. Maybe they tied it to advertising dollars with the network or something?

I do not think they have nefarious intentions. Just clueless designers or a design team that is missing the mark. Have read John Mack was in charge of this & the trucks? Ed Welburn retired in 2016, so was hoping for new design language. But what was shown yesterday morning is not what I had hoped for.
Edit: & oh yeah, message boards, car sites, youtube etc overwhelmingly roasted this car yesterday.
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Old 04-10-2018, 04:53 PM   #55
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Why is this bow-tie crowding the top?...I think it would look better one row down centered in the grille....

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For me on this one, the headlights are the issue. It is like they just filled the space at the bottom with black plastic tilted to save the expense of filling with an actual light. If they were attempting to pay tribute to '68 or what ever the spin was. The headlights should have been changed to something that fits this design.
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Old 04-10-2018, 04:56 PM   #56
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I'm sorry! I just do not like it!I was going to wait till 2020.Because that does sound cool. A 2020 camaro.But if it looks anything like 2019 forget it! To me its drifting away from THAT camaro ;look"
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