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Old 08-22-2019, 04:21 PM   #169
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That was in high elevation skewing the numbers along with VP ethanol free 95 octane LT4 system will never support that much power on 93 octane. Mid 700's is realistically where the LT4 stuff tops out with no meth. Race gas(MS109) would extend that out further.
2000' is high elevation? I believe they said 93. They also said it performed more like 95 or something, but at any rate, that's all what they said and proved is all I'm saying. CSP was getting into the 800s without meth on pump 93 if I recall - ported 1740 with a lobe and heads and supporting mods'. That was in PA or something, too.
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Old 08-22-2019, 04:23 PM   #170
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The main reason i am thinking of going 2650 regardless of brand vs porting what i have are the high temps and humidity we get here most of the year. I think heating up the stock blower is gonna cause me issues. If i lived in a cooler climate it may not be as much of an issue. Another key factor for me is reliability. I think maxing around 750rwhp is still very streetable and good driving manors on trips. As far as tracking the car, im after 9.8s to 10.0 range. I have not ruled out doing a cam or a low percentage of e85 gas. Maybe a e30-40 range if the pump can keep up at that range. I dont want to mess with Meth. The other mods i would do are ARH 2" headers and their exhaust into stock muffler. Cat deletes, but will add resonators. 103tb with Big Gulp.
Have you looked into or considered chillers for your heat? We have at least one Sponsor here who has knowledge on these kits. Maybe that would keep you from having to get into another blower.
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Old 08-22-2019, 04:39 PM   #171
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Have you looked into or considered chillers for your heat? We have at least one Sponsor here who has knowledge on these kits. Maybe that would keep you from having to get into another blower.
I actually have til several people have reported not much drop in temps. I was leaning towards the chiller.
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Old 08-22-2019, 06:15 PM   #172
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Both seem like awesome blowers. I ditched the whipple and went with the eforce on my cts-v because it came out before the magnuson and I needed port injection to run full e85 without meth. It's a stock bottom end lt4 with ported heads, cam and 103mm TB making 21psi. The car is an animal and beating lighter cars that claim 1000+. I've got a chiller on the car (highly recommend) so IATs are not an issue. Very happy with the eforce.

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Old 08-22-2019, 09:10 PM   #173
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2000' is high elevation? I believe they said 93. They also said it performed more like 95 or something, but at any rate, that's all what they said and proved is all I'm saying. CSP was getting into the 800s without meth on pump 93 if I recall - ported 1740 with a lobe and heads and supporting mods'. That was in PA or something, too.
I do know the fuel used was VP 95 race fuel. So did VR turn the car up to make a hero Dyno pull but knew it wouldnt be safe at the strip because it didn't run a time anywhere close to what 950whp should be at even in elevated DA?

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CSP broke into the 80x range with heads/cam, ported blower, and interchiller. There have been several other shops hit the wall around 750whp. dynos read different from one to the next. His car doesn't run like it's a true 800whp car either.

Either way it's a pretty safe bet the LT4 fuel system won't support 950whp on 93 near sea level on a honest Dyno.
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Old 08-24-2019, 08:47 AM   #174
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Even Vengence has run out to 950 with NOTHING more than OEM LT4 injectors and pump assembly. Given, those were probably hero pulls on 93-octane race gas (lean and high timing), so there's a little headroom from 750-800. I wouldn't say much though, ha.
That 950 number is NOT real horsepower. It's STD corrected, and the correction factor was likely pretty significant.
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Old 08-27-2019, 12:54 PM   #175
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For the Magnuson, if you run the Speed Billet VC, does it fit the VC as is or do the coils still need to be shifted?
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Old 08-28-2019, 02:11 PM   #176
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For the Magnuson, if you run the Speed Billet VC, does it fit the VC as is or do the coils still need to be shifted?
The Speed Engineering Valve covers have the coil posts moved to an acceptable location, they fit Magnuson as purchased (no shifting required).
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Old 08-28-2019, 02:19 PM   #177
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The Speed Engineering Valve covers have the coil posts moved to an acceptable location, they fit Magnuson as purchased (no shifting required).
Good to know..thanks
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Old 08-28-2019, 02:53 PM   #178
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Old 09-16-2019, 03:47 PM   #179
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Eforce vs. Maggi...

I think the maggi has the win for a road course track guy or the do it yourselfers that wants to install a more efficient blower than the 1.7L sure perform good at the 1/4 mile track to BUT..

Let's be honest your going to have to run the car on race fuel, a ton of meth or purchase the lingenfelter hi side pump, a 100 psi low side (not DSX), cam lobe of 42%, and plus 30/45 injectors to come close to lort injection. Oh BTW, The 9k dollar UWE/katech belt driven system is a choice to lol..

Or you can do this! See pics!

I'll admit the maggi may flow more than the eforce out of the box.. neither have been flowed on a bench side to side with video and from what I was told the maggi is ported.. not sure if that's true but ok..

None of that matter unless you have the fuel system, money, or time to complete the injector cycle in a direct injection system.

It wasn't my idea to port my blower I was contacted by Kong while I was waiting for hp tuners to write my vin into 19 software..the cost was minimal about the same as the paying about a 1000 more for a maggi vs an Eforce.

So anyhow I got the best of both worlds a ported blower and port injection..

All I'm saying is way the facts and make a educated decision especially if your thinking of a HP number go reliably and take cost in consideration and ease of filling up your tank!
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Old 09-16-2019, 04:35 PM   #180
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Why not DSX for low side (I’ve only seen positive reviews of their stuff)? What are fuel parts are you running now: high, low and injectors?
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Old 09-16-2019, 04:55 PM   #181
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Why not DSX for low side (I’ve only seen positive reviews of their stuff)? What are fuel parts are you running now: high, low and injectors?
To get a 1000 out the LPE stuff a 100psi low side pressure is need with a constant 80 psi sustained. Something not mentioned, the only way to do this is pull the stock pump and install 2 525 walbro's, in an aftermarket fuel can or have a full machine shop like them to modify the stock can setting it up to a return style system. I was able to get 8 psi more by installing a hiflo ck valve another restriction something that will be available at LPE soon these are 2 big things are not mentioned for there kit..


Now I have my wifes SS pump and injectors w port injection using ID1050x a return style fuel system
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Old 09-16-2019, 06:27 PM   #182
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Did you look at Fore? https://www.foreinnovations.com/category_s/558.htm
They were the go to fuel solution for mustangs and now have a Camaro double and triple pump solution.
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