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Old 03-14-2015, 08:28 AM   #267
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Number 3 hit it on head..I bought 2010 2ss. Tough car especially the interior lol.. Black with Orange stripes and Orange interior. Badass combo! Still didn't take away the crap interior..
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Old 03-14-2015, 09:14 AM   #268
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No one forgot..............at least I didn't. But it remains a pretty poor interior regardless of the award.

Oh, and just looking at that photo reminds me of the constant complaining about that awesome steering wheel...........which I actually didn't mind but most people picked on.
I respect your opinion, I just do not completely agree with it.

As with all new designed GM vehicles lately I will say the 6th Gen's interior will be top knotch!
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Old 03-14-2015, 09:56 AM   #269
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What you all miss is GM is not in the financial shape you think its in. Mustangs are selling 2 to one over Camaro and that's why they have to make it a world car. Lighter and smaller with better fuel economy, something Europe will accept! They build cars to make money, not to satisfy everyone's needs, and 2014/2015 they had a lot of very low selling losing money model lines. example SS, Z/28. The list goes on!!
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Old 03-14-2015, 09:56 AM   #270
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I really think we will be pleasantly surprised at the F6 interior. Like I said, our ATS interior is AWESOME!!! Interior resolved, plus a diet= the PERFECT Camaro! ������
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Old 03-14-2015, 10:01 AM   #271
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I respect your opinion, I just do not completely agree with it.

As with all new designed GM vehicles lately I will say the 6th Gen's interior will be top knotch!
Think the biggest problem was it didn't age well and a lot of manufacturers have really stepped up the game with interior design. I would argue the only reason it won best interior in 2010 was the fact it was new and retro. My 2009 Jetta had a much better interior than the 2010 Camaro imo.
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Old 03-14-2015, 10:14 AM   #272
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Think the biggest problem was it didn't age well and a lot of manufacturers have really stepped up the game with interior design. I would argue the only reason it won best interior in 2010 was the fact it was new and retro. My 2009 Jetta had a much better interior than the 2010 Camaro imo.
My 2004 GTO has better interior materials than my ZL1. Sad but true.

Regardless, I love driving the Z. Gobs of power with Caddy ride quality in tour mode and amazing stability.
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Old 03-14-2015, 10:52 AM   #273
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I guess some just forgot....

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/04/12/w...award-winners/

Camaro won the Ward's Auto best interior for 2010...

I always liked the interior. Could be better but I like it.
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Old 03-14-2015, 10:52 AM   #274
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My 2004 GTO has better interior materials than my ZL1. Sad but true.

Regardless, I love driving the Z. Gobs of power with Caddy ride quality in tour mode and amazing stability.
Pontiac always had better interiors than chevy!
Look back at the trans am vs camaro in 2002.
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Old 03-14-2015, 10:58 AM   #275
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What you all miss is GM is not in the financial shape you think its in. Mustangs are selling 2 to one over Camaro and that's why they have to make it a world car. Lighter and smaller with better fuel economy, something Europe will accept! They build cars to make money, not to satisfy everyone's needs, and 2014/2015 they had a lot of very low selling losing money model lines. example SS, Z/28. The list goes on!!
You are poorly misinformed. The new Mustang has been expected to outsell the fifth gen as it hits the end of its cycle. That being said the 2014 refresh did its job and 2014 had its best sales since 2011. The SS sedan and Z/28 were planned from the get go to be low production numbers due to CAFE and pricing. Yes the SS sedan could be selling a little better but it was never intended sell in large quantities.
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Old 03-14-2015, 10:59 AM   #276
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I guess some just forgot....

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/04/12/w...award-winners/

Camaro won the Ward's Auto best interior for 2010...
Those things don't matter to me. I went to a Chevy dealership with cash and a trade in hand intending to buy a Camaro, and left shaking my head telling myself there was no way I could pay $40k for a car with that bad of an interior, regardless of how cool it looked or how fun it was to drive.

To me, the interior is the most important part of the car, because that's the part that you deal with and see every day. The performance is second for me, because as much as I love having cars with great low end torque, my car will probably never see a track as long as I own it.

The exterior and performance get me in the door looking at a car, but the interior sells it (or makes me pass in the case of the Camaro). For someone using a car as a daily driver, interior design, materials used, and ergonomics are critically important to get right.
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Old 03-14-2015, 11:20 AM   #277
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Those things don't matter to me. I went to a Chevy dealership with cash and a trade in hand intending to buy a Camaro, and left shaking my head telling myself there was no way I could pay $40k for a car with that bad of an interior, regardless of how cool it looked or how fun it was to drive.

To me, the interior is the most important part of the car, because that's the part that you deal with and see every day. The performance is second for me, because as much as I love having cars with great low end torque, my car will probably never see a track as long as I own it.

The exterior and performance get me in the door looking at a car, but the interior sells it (or makes me pass in the case of the Camaro). For someone using a car as a daily driver, interior design, materials used, and ergonomics are critically important to get right.
What did you buy then?
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Old 03-14-2015, 11:23 AM   #278
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Pontiac always had better interiors than chevy!
Look back at the trans am vs camaro in 2002.
True. Significant is that the GTO is a 2004 and the ZL1 a 2013. I'm not complaining though because I feel the ZL1 is still nice inside and I'm fortunate to be able to own one.
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Old 03-14-2015, 11:32 AM   #279
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I will wager that the interior on the Gen 6 will be the wow. The exterior, from what we've seen, is a refinement of the Gen 5 styling. Fine, not what I was hoping for. It is taking a "safe" path forward.

The interior will be much improved. I have no way of knowing, but I believe the folks there know better how to get the materials right. Just look at the Impala, Corvette and Tahoe/Suburban.

GM would have to really drop the ball to not make a huge leap with the interior.

I hope I am correct.

Good ergonomics - much of the visibility issues with the Gen 5 are a result of the Zeta architecture. Hoping the Alpha based car improves in this regard.

Materials - as I said, look at GM's other products. They are getting it right......or at least much better.

Features - certainly you can expect a much more integrated design with at least an 8" NAV/My Link screen available. Digital dual zone HVAC. All the latest crash avoidance goodies, SBZA, FCA..... I also bet it has height adjustment in the passenger seat

Like I said, they would almost have to purposely make it bad based on what they've done since the Camaro launched.

Of course I do hope the folks that did the Malibu interior weren't involved.

I think when we see the Malibu at NY that will be a great indicator. I certainly believe the Camaro will get at least an equal level to the NG Malibu launching just ahead of the Camaro.

From what I've seen, the exterior would not cause me to reject the car. But the interior has to be far better. Right now the current interior would prevent me from buying a Camaro if I were in the market.
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You are poorly misinformed. The new Mustang has been expected to outsell the fifth gen as it hits the end of its cycle. That being said the 2014 refresh did its job and 2014 had its best sales since 2011. The SS sedan and Z/28 were planned from the get go to be low production numbers due to CAFE and pricing. Yes the SS sedan could be selling a little better but it was never intended sell in large quantities.
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Going back to their origins in the Swinging '60s, the Ford Mustang and Chevrolet Camaro have been fierce rivals for fans' hearts and dollars. Historically, the Ford often led in volume, but Chevy took the muscle car top spot in 2009 upon the Camaro's rebirth. However, with the launch of the latest Blue Oval pony car, the tide is turning back in Ford's favor.

November was the first full month of sales for the new 2015 Mustang, and according to TheDetroitBureau.com, the model did spectacularly well. The Blue Oval shifted 8,728 of them, up 62 percent from same month last year, with the automaker proclaiming it the model's best November sales since 2006. Conversely, 4,385 units of the Camaro were delivered, down 13.5 percent year-over-year, meaning its sales were roughly half that of the new-generation Mustang
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