01-13-2020, 04:38 PM | #6259 | |
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And careful, you'll russle some jimmies if you say the ss 1le does anything better than a zl1 lol.. all jokes aside, the zl1 and ss 1le are equipped the same handling wise with the zl1 being heavier, ofcourse the ss 1le will have the edge in certain handling behaviors. I didn't expect it but I'm not terribly surprised the pp2 brakes better than the gt350 considering it does have an equipment advantage with 305s up front. The lateral g's are a little surprising though but ultimately meaningless.
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01-13-2020, 07:31 PM | #6260 |
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Quick shout out to slither,
I would say your observations of woman driving Mustangs over camaros is a small sampling size. I work in the street just about everyday, from San Diego to los angeles county, and can say I see woman driving pony cars of all types. Mustangs, camaros, challengers, haven't really noticed them driving one over the other. Could also be on your commute, you generally see the same people. Just my observations but would add I personally consider my sampling group much larger, imo. |
01-13-2020, 08:11 PM | #6261 |
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New copy of Road & Track has a 2020 GT500 vs 2019 subaru STI S209 article.
Good grief.
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01-13-2020, 08:22 PM | #6262 |
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01-13-2020, 08:24 PM | #6263 | |
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You keep saying I'm bashing the GT350 yet even you yourself said it should have disappeared 3-4 years ago. Anyone buying that car is doing so for the emblems and (in some cases) because they think chicks dig it. But when you have a chick in your $60K Mustang and you get walked by a $30K base model GT then what does that look like? Or when your $60K GT350 is capable of beating only a lower trim cheaper version of a Mustang that was built without coolers then what does that look like? |
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01-13-2020, 08:24 PM | #6264 |
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01-13-2020, 08:36 PM | #6265 |
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01-13-2020, 11:44 PM | #6266 |
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Sure seems like Ford is not letting the mags run this thing against a Camaro.
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01-14-2020, 04:20 AM | #6267 |
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Funny timing...right in the middle of my debate with shaffe on the GT500 always having some advantage in comparisons. LOL!!
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01-14-2020, 06:45 AM | #6268 |
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If your much anticipated halo model just got slapped by a base C8 in everything BUT a run at VIR would you want it competing against a ZL1? I wonder what Road and Track will find better on the Subaru than the Mustang.
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01-14-2020, 06:56 AM | #6269 |
Thank you Al Oppenheiser!
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01-14-2020, 07:56 AM | #6270 | |||
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Maybe they're on a crusade to champion vehicles that anybody can afford.
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01-14-2020, 08:00 AM | #6271 |
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I’m sure this has been discussed. But what is the camaro forum’s rebutall to the gt500 lapping the same time as the 991.2 gt3rs?
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01-14-2020, 08:04 AM | #6272 |
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I can't speak for the forum, but personally I've held the opinion that the GT500 will do better than ZLE on tracks with long straights and fast curves. The ZLE's best chance will be on shorter, more handling focused tracks. Those might be a driver's race. More of an opinion than a rebuttal.
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