[Capricio]

Originally Posted by Evergreen6

No, that's not what I said. Keep your own car safe, I'll do mine. How's that?

Some of us have brought ideas to the table for the greater community, you brought skepticism that any effort was even worthwhile. We'll do our best, you do your worst. How's that?

[MT-SS1LE]

Originally Posted by LancevanceZLE

I've never heard of a car being stolen with a flatbed. It simply doesn't happen often.

The barrier to entry matters a lot. Why did people steal Kias with a USB stick but not before then with a flatbed?

The 1200% increase in theft is not driven by flatbed thieves lol. It's the software vulnerability. Fix that issue and theft will drop again.

Either way, it'll affect you too. At some point insurance will simply drop Camaro comprehensive coverage or make it unaffordable, just like certain Kias and Hyundais nationwide. Your individual behavior doesn't matter.

It's high time you folks realize we're all in this together.

The only way it'll be solved is if we stick together and all pressure Chevrolet to do something.

I'd have to agree, I doubt many thieves are going to the trouble of bringing a flatbed to steal a Camaro, not exactly a rare or high value vehicle. I've been driving for 40 years, the Camaro is my first car with push-button start. I frankly don't get the point of it. Good 'ole keys have worked fine for 100 years. At least with keyed ignitions, a thief has to have some skill and work more than 1 minute to steal a car. Now literally anyone with internet access can steal your push-button start car with almost no skill or effort. I don't consider this "progress". Chevy can and should release a fix for this.

[alexTop]

what the hell man. This making me think of training a pitbull and leaving him in the car.

[Capricio]

Originally Posted by LancevanceZLE

Not with that attitude! It's as simple as putting a 2 hour time delay on key reprogramming. A small software update could fix it. Range Rover has recently done such an update.

...somehow, I see a dealer service dept charging shop rate for the two idle hours.

[Evergreen6]

Originally Posted by Capricio

Some of us have brought ideas to the table for the greater community, you brought skepticism that any effort was even worthwhile. We'll do our best, you do your worst. How's that?

Sure, work on getting GM to develop a retroactive security update and then also trust them not to F it up or expose another vulnerability. It's a great pipe dream, and if it ends up happening, please do come back to the forum and tell me I'm wrong. I hope GM does it for us...

...but hope and complaining doesn't make our cars safe right now.

[Capricio]

Originally Posted by Evergreen6

Sure, work on getting GM to develop a retroactive security update and then also trust them not to F it up or expose another vulnerability. It's a great pipe dream, and if it ends up happening, please do come back to the forum and tell me I'm wrong. I hope GM does it for us...

...but hope and complaining doesn't make our cars safe right now.

The two hour delay delay software solution that Lance described sounds pretty easy to apply. It's worth a shot. Costs nothing but a few moments to ask.

For anyone interested, I started a DIY Alarm/DummyOBD/StarterLockout thread in the DIY section with demo video and parts list. It's a work in progress. It should be buildable for under $100. Hopefully I'll have a schematic up soon and some more videos.

[NjaTrtl]

Originally Posted by AZIROC

Keep voting Democrat Cali peeps. Newsom isn't able to sell your freedom unless you keep him in charge.

I have got to get out of this state...

[olrocker]

I mean, if everyone just pulled the fuel pump relay every time they parked the car the only way one could ever steal it - well, 2 ways - are:

1. Flatbed/tow
2. Have the properly rated and set up relay with them

Since the whole automobile market has switched from mechanical fuel pumps to electric through the 1980s this seems like the best anti-theft device ever.

[L2SS455]

The damned thing is for sale on Amazon for $415, WTF!
I guess this renders the Faraday pouch useless.

[TheEnthusiast]

Originally Posted by LancevanceZLE

It's everywhere, and it will come to your state too. It's already been reported in Texas, Florida, Mississippi, Kentucky, etc.

Just like the Kia thefts, once the word gets out about how easy it is to steal them, thieves in other locations will copy the method.

It takes less than 5 minutes with a $1000 locksmith device you can buy on Amazon.

We should all be calling Chevrolet to file complaints so they can do a software update before the Camaro becomes uninsurable.

Instead of making this about politics or us vs them, we should come together so that GM can do the right thing and fix how easy they are to steal.

Everybody should call Chevrolet customer service and complain about how easy they are to steal. Cite this article as evidence. If they get a thousand calls they might finally do something.

Chevrolet customer service: +1-800-222-1020

I made my voice heard. Called and said it only takes 5 minutes to reprogram a key to steal Camaros right now and we need a software update. He didn't even know it was that easy. Said he'd pass the note along.

I'm doing my part, how 'bout you?

[Anjilslaire]

Is there a handy link that explaines the $1K fob programmer & process? It's using the OBDII port, I assume?

[LancevanceZLE]

Originally Posted by Anjilslaire

Is there a handy link that explaines the $1K fob programmer & process? It's using the ODBII port, I assume?

I don't think anyone is going to explicitly tell you how to steal a Camaro lol. They use the OBD port and a locksmith key reprogramming device from Amazon.

The way to protect yourself is getting an OBD lock, moving/hiding your OBD port, and/or killswitch with ignition or fuel pump cut off. A combination of various methods is probably best, and it's not very expensive.

You'll still get your driver's side window smashed in, but at least they won't be able to steal it. Driver side windows are on nationwide backorder btw. This tells you the issue is spreading.

Someone with an OBD locker has reported the thieves were not able to get past it, although they tried prying it with a screwdriver and plyers.

Ultimately, the real solution would have to come from Chevrolet. This is also affecting C7 Corvettes, which are being stolen at an increasing rate.

As a Camaro and C7 Corvette owner I'm not very happy...

[plus1zero]

Originally Posted by Evergreen6

It's funny, not funny, because urban Florida and parts of Texas are disgusting and crime-ridden too, albeit just slightly less. But it's California everyone talks about because...agenda.

No, GM isn't going to fire up the production line. No, GM Customer Service isn't going to make your car more secure.

Nice wheels.

Yeah but in FL and Texas you can defend yourself against said crime. It's encouraged in California.

[TheEnthusiast]

Originally Posted by alexTop

what the hell man. This making me think of training a pitbull and leaving him in the car.

poop and pee everywhere