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Old 07-28-2017, 07:13 AM   #15
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Tried this on the way to work today, definitely hit the rev limiter. Anybody else notice both these vids are 1LE's? Do the non 1LE camaro a have the NLS feature?
Every V8 Camaro has the NLS feature.
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Old 07-28-2017, 09:44 AM   #16
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Yep in this video (@slick3 btw) NLS functions exactly the same as it does in my original post. You can hear the RPMs fall when NLS is active between gears.
If your RPMs go up between gears, NLS is not working as described.
If you think your RPMs stay the same between gears, try shifting at 6100, use NLS, but don't let the clutch out immediately in the next gear. I'll try to do another test like that today with the PDR.
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Old 07-28-2017, 09:56 AM   #17
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How'd you get that video - Is it like an option in the car or what?? I keep seeing them around and I need it :O
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...That's the factory PDR (Performance Data Recorder). No GoPro there...
Yep factory PDR in "track" video overlay mode.
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Old 07-28-2017, 10:33 AM   #18
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now, can someone with a supercharged (not from factory) test this NLS?
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Old 07-28-2017, 10:37 AM   #19
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now, can someone with a supercharged (not from factory) test this NLS?
I'd love to if I had better tires. Else the top of third gear is the only option. What is the minimum shift RPM to engage NLS?
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Old 07-28-2017, 10:41 AM   #20
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I'd love to if I had better tires. Else the top of third gear is the only option. What is the minimum shift RPM to engage NLS?
All good questions. I have yet to do it. personally I won't do it until someone else who has been tuned by HP tuners IE: Maggie. Sounds kinda selfish but............
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Old 07-28-2017, 10:56 AM   #21
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What were you expecting to happen? your revs to stay at 6k?
no, i'd expect that in a normal car, if i took it out of gear with my foot on the gas, the RPMs would jump to redline in about .5 seconds. NLS is supposed to prevent this.

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My rpms do not drop when I do it.
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Mine don't either...
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No, that seems to be a common misconception. Many people on this forum seem to think that NLS holds the RPMs when you put the clutch in when it in fact lets them drop to reduce driveline shock.
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Tried this on the way to work today, definitely hit the rev limiter. Anybody else notice both these vids are 1LE's? Do the non 1LE camaro a have the NLS feature?
The first and only time I tried it, it didn't seem to work as RPM's instantly hit rev limiter and it also made a very bad drivetrain clunking noise and jerked me around a bit. Not exactly giving me any motivation to try this "ghost feature" again.

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What is the minimum shift RPM to engage NLS?
Wouldn't it be nice if GM actually produced a clear and concise description of this "feature" and how to use it so that we could stop having these threads pop up every other week?
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Old 07-28-2017, 11:17 AM   #22
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All good questions. I have yet to do it. personally I won't do it until someone else who has been tuned by HP tuners IE: Maggie. Sounds kinda selfish but............
I'm with you. Maybe forego the shift and instead just perform a test where you quickly depress the clutch at full throttle and see if the RPMs climb or hold? If they climb simply let off the gas. You could even discover the minimum RPM more easily with this method.

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Old 07-28-2017, 11:39 AM   #23
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I'm with you. Maybe forego the shift and instead just perform a test where you quickly depress the clutch at full throttle and see if the RPMs climb or hold? If they climb simply let off the gas. You could even discover the minimum RPM more easily with this method.

You go first.
Here you go!

Tested this in sport mode, full throttle to redline, NLS and shift to 2nd and kept the clutch in. As you can see if does the NLS fart and drops the RPMs to where they should be for 2nd gear, then held there until I released the clutch a second later. Throttle at 100% the whole time.

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Old 07-28-2017, 12:23 PM   #24
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No, that seems to be a common misconception. Many people on this forum seem to think that NLS holds the RPMs when you put the clutch in when it in fact lets them drop to reduce driveline shock.
I was being snarky, your video looked like everything was working as intended.
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Old 07-28-2017, 02:44 PM   #25
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Do you have to shift above 6k rpm to engage the NLS?
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Old 07-28-2017, 02:59 PM   #26
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Do you have to shift above 6k rpm to engage the NLS?
I think I've done it just shy of 6k but I would aim to be above 6k just to be sure.
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No, that seems to be a common misconception. Many people on this forum seem to think that NLS holds the RPMs when you put the clutch in when it in fact lets them drop to reduce driveline shock.
Not so sure about the RPM drop in a standard SS now that I am drag racing with NLS shifting @6,350 or 6,550 (shift light set rpm to keep under the limiter) depending on the tune but a momentary hesitation after the shift makes think some timing was rolled back. Has anyone logged NLS?

So far NLS is not faster than my own shifting ET wise. But I do seem to be more consistent.
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Old 07-28-2017, 05:15 PM   #28
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Here you go!
Tested this in sport mode, full throttle to redline, NLS and shift to 2nd and kept the clutch in. As you can see if does the NLS fart and drops the RPMs to where they should be for 2nd gear, then held there until I released the clutch a second later. Throttle at 100% the whole time.
Awesome thanks so much!

Can you test minimum engagement RPM? I remember seeing this somewhere in HP tuners, and I remember it set at 5100 or 5300RPM?
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