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Old 09-12-2020, 11:57 PM   #57
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I actually asked him that via PM yesterday and he said they're also working on a kit for the Maggie 2300, and that kit would likely work with the Whipple. Sounds like the 2650 kit works because the coil packs are relocated with that blower, so he wants to do a slightly different kit for the 2300/Whipple setups.
Correct, it requires a slightly different fuel rail design to avoid having to move the coils. We had to cut some "non automotive" parts last week so we'll be back to rails this week. We haven't been able to test fit the 2300 or Whipple yet so there still are unanswered variables but it's highly likely that it will fit just fine.

The system is a tight squeeze on my Z06 with the Magnuson 2650 but with a couple simple modifications it fits under the stock hood. Hoping to finish the wiring this week and have it running again. Really looking forward to see how much power we will be able to pull out of this otherwise stock LT4 with plenty of E85...
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Old 09-13-2020, 12:00 AM   #58
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Guess I'll have to fly out and help him since I don't work anymore. Early retirement.
I'm guessing that anytime in January would probably work good for you
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Old 09-13-2020, 11:21 AM   #59
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Very interested to see what the Z06 does with your system on E85 and pump.
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Old 09-15-2020, 08:08 AM   #60
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Correct, it requires a slightly different fuel rail design to avoid having to move the coils. We had to cut some "non automotive" parts last week so we'll be back to rails this week. We haven't been able to test fit the 2300 or Whipple yet so there still are unanswered variables but it's highly likely that it will fit just fine.

The system is a tight squeeze on my Z06 with the Magnuson 2650 but with a couple simple modifications it fits under the stock hood. Hoping to finish the wiring this week and have it running again. Really looking forward to see how much power we will be able to pull out of this otherwise stock LT4 with plenty of E85...
It seems like if it fits under your stock Z06 hood, with simple mods, it might fit under a stock ZL1 hood, too, yes?
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Sounds like the 2300 might not have close to same results as this due to the IATs/timing

This sounds like such a great way to run E85 on a boosted car
Hope it can work with the 2300
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Old 09-26-2020, 01:56 AM   #62
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Sounds like the 2300 might not have close to same results as this due to the IATs/timing

This sounds like such a great way to run E85 on a boosted car
Hope it can work with the 2300
When your able to run a fair amount of E85 the inlet air temps become considerably less important, especially with a PD supercharger.

Lower inlet air temps will reduce the boost pressure from the SC requiring slightly less drive power for the SC, but the bigger factor of the IAT on pump gas is the timing limit to avoid knock. With full E85, knock limits pretty much disappear at boost levels up to about 15psi on an LT1 (much higher on the LT4)

So while the 2300 will likely have higher IATs than the 2650, I'm sure you'll be able to run MBT timing up to about 15psi boost - which will be close to 800 RWHP and beyond the point I'd feel safe with stock LT1 internals.
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Old 09-26-2020, 02:07 AM   #63
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Just a quick shot of the install on my LT4.
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Old 09-26-2020, 07:37 AM   #64
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When your able to run a fair amount of E85 the inlet air temps become considerably less important, especially with a PD supercharger.

Lower inlet air temps will reduce the boost pressure from the SC requiring slightly less drive power for the SC, but the bigger factor of the IAT on pump gas is the timing limit to avoid knock. With full E85, knock limits pretty much disappear at boost levels up to about 15psi on an LT1 (much higher on the LT4)

So while the 2300 will likely have higher IATs than the 2650, I'm sure you'll be able to run MBT timing up to about 15psi boost - which will be close to 800 RWHP and beyond the point I'd feel safe with stock LT1 internals.
This is amazing.
I don't have to spend $10k on a cam/pistons/injectors/pumps/etc to run E85 and turn things up

10-11 psi would be good being I'm on stock clutch still

Is your Z06 holding that power on stock LT4 clutch ?

When would you estimate this fuel system be available ?

Props to you and your son for developing these great products
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Old 09-26-2020, 08:09 AM   #65
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Just a quick shot of the install on my LT4.
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Old 09-26-2020, 08:30 AM   #66
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Guess I'll have to fly out and help him since I don't work anymore. Early retirement.
I hate to tell you Greg, but retirement at your age, or mine doesn't really qualify as early!
If you start hanging out with Mike, the NA plans for your C7 will be out the window before you know it.
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Old 09-26-2020, 08:32 AM   #67
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Just a quick shot of the install on my LT4.
Looks good!

For us LT4 folks how much would you expect it to extend our power capabilities, with various fuel types, of the factory high-side?
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Old 09-26-2020, 07:48 PM   #68
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Those rails would look great here
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Old 09-26-2020, 08:37 PM   #69
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I agree that they would look good and you could really bang the gong for sure. Yah Mike's a bad influence on me. I didn't want to put a 2300 on and he said sure you do, then I was trying to refuse a 2650 and he said your gettin one. I accepted so it just went on and on. I just couldn't resist and well you know he's a good talker so here we are again. The C7 is unknown at this point, once I get in the 10s this year NA we'll see what happens over the shitty midwest winter. Might get bored and get another Maggie.
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You know you need to Greg. We can't leave stuff alone. BTW I may have found a good shop I should know tomorrow.
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