08-21-2019, 10:54 AM | #15 |
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It is sometimes a hassle, but if you have ever seen a ceramic coated car at a car show, all shined up, turn in any direction away from it and bask in the glory of other peoples gorgeous paint swirls. I've seen brand new 200k+ cars with insanely defined swirls. My black paint is literally a mirror without any...Very rare to see a black car that (even freshly cleaned) doesn't have hundreds of noticeable swirls...any color for that matter but some stick out more than others.
I just have too much pride in my car to not have it look perfect all the time. My DD I just hit with a foam cannon and don't care if it gets scratched or dinged lol. My GSXR also stays very clean 24/7 but no I did not ceramic coat it |
08-21-2019, 11:05 AM | #16 |
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I just tried Carpro Hydro2foam: diluted 10:1, spray on just-washed car, wipe, hose-off, dry. Done. I can't see the need for anything else.
For paint correction, I pay a shop for a simple polish. Don't see the need to try to flatten the orange peel. PPF is necessary in some places as well imo. |
08-21-2019, 12:16 PM | #17 |
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my car is ceramic coated and i dont daily it anymore and i literally have to wash it every weekend lol i hate it
in the winter i use a car cover to protect it from the rain and then every may i remove it and get my annual recoat/detail
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08-21-2019, 01:50 PM | #19 | |
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First, if swirls bother you a lot, buy a polisher and take them out yourself. Its not hard and it is quite satisfying. Your products are good. THe products are not the problem. The swirls are not getting there by osmosis. You are putting them there with your towels and applicators. You may need to take a hard look at your towels, your laundry methods and your detailing methods. The more you wipe your car, the more chance you have of getting swirls. If you hate seeing swirls, DON'T get a ceramic coating. Ceramic still swirls (an get water spots) and then you have to polish the swirls out and reapply. If you love to rub on your car, and can't stop, go with a polymer paint sealant and top that with a wax. Nothing wrong with being a detailing addict. I turned my detailing addiction into a business that is more successful than I ever dreamed it would be. Now I rub on other people's cars every day, instead of my own car!
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08-21-2019, 02:58 PM | #20 |
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Wow yep, I don’t even know what stage 2 paint correction means! Bucket of Suds and big sponge rinse repeat...
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08-21-2019, 04:08 PM | #21 |
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I keep it simple. ONR rinseless wash or ONR rinseless wash and wax. Claybar once or twice a year depending and apply whatever wax/sealant I got laying around as I feel needed. Adam's HO2 G&G is fantastic stuff.
Since I've been using ONR for the past 3 years, I've had no issues with swirls at all. That stuff is magic. The less you are touching the paint the better. Last edited by SixgenSix; 08-21-2019 at 04:24 PM. |
08-21-2019, 05:41 PM | #22 | |
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08-21-2019, 06:41 PM | #23 |
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08-21-2019, 07:09 PM | #24 |
Thank you Al Oppenheiser!
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If you have the $, do a full paint correction, put on a self-healing paint protection film and top it with a durable hydrophobic coating (see #3 below). You won't see a swirl ever again.
If not, then: 1. Strip off everything. 2. Polish the Swirls. 3. Buy a bottle of Gtechniq EXO ($70). 4. Put on 2 coats. Let it cure a week. 5. Wash with a pH neutral coating safe shampoo. 6. Dilute one part Carpro Reload into 5 parts Distilled water. Optionally add Carpro Ech20 (20:5:1 water:Reload:Ech20). This is your quick detail spray. 7. Use the QD with a 500+ GSM edgeless MF towel. (Rag Company Eagle Edgeless is good) |
08-21-2019, 10:49 PM | #25 |
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It wont matter how much money you spend or what products you purchase if you do not properly wash your cars. Swirls are only formed from either poor washing methods or dirty microfiver pads / rags.
I use a 2 bucket method, microfiber large wash mitt, foam canon, pre-soak, and in addition to using wash soap in bucket I also spray the foam cannon in front of my mitt. I never wash in circles, never apply any pressure over the natural weight on the wash mitt, and I am sure to ALWAYS use edgeless microfibers and follow proper washing and drying methods when cleaning them. It also helps that I live a couple miles from auto geek and stop by all the time. Get back to the basics and watch a ton of videos on youtube. After 1 yr of ownership and 5 washes a month, I have zero swirls in my paint.... |
08-22-2019, 06:14 AM | #26 |
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Man, all I use is Maquires Tech 2.0 wax and have NO swirls, with an absolute great shine. I have clear bra on the entire front, don't know if that makes a difference. You guys are killing me with all these layers of products you use.
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08-22-2019, 08:52 AM | #27 | |
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Also if you still have to worry about water spotting and swirls then why spend all the money for Ceramic Coating. What is the benefit then and what is it's purpose.....seriously asking. |
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