[Chutzpah]

Originally Posted by Wyzz Kydd

Nothing against the LT1, but my 1SS 1LE seems pretty ‘frill free’. I can’t think of any options it has that I would willing ditch other than the alcantara, which I don’t care for.

My first Camaro was a 1SS without Magride, so I assume it handles pretty much like an LT1, other than the different tires. When I moved to a 1SS 1LE the handling difference was very obvious. Full disclosure I really like carving it up, so the way I drive accentuates the difference.

Interestingly enough, I contacted a dealer about taking a test ride in a
1LE (just to check it out, you never see them around here) What I can say for sure is the lighter weight, recent aggressive street alignment, wider wheels and stickier tires have made a huge difference in handling in the LT1…. It feels as, or perhaps even more stable as my ZL1 convertible, which of course is a bit softer than a regular ZL1 and a 1LE.

I’m eager to take that test ride in the 1LE.

[Chutzpah]

Originally Posted by 2SS Capt

Not to mention the crappy single piston caliper rear brakes on the LT1 that can't be upgraded to the SS 4 piston Brembo rear calipers...

Hold on a second here, didn’t you pull the stock high performance pads and replace with lower performance dusting pads? Maybe spent some time and a couple hundred bucks doing so? (which to me makes sense, I hate the dusting too). In the LT1, no dusting from the factory. Believe me when I say it, the car stops fine. I really can’t think of a time on the street that I’d need more braking power. I’ve intentionally pushed the car to test them (as best a reasonable and responsible). I just don’t think calling the rears crappy… is fair. Not as good, sure… but crappy to me means they don’t perform their intended function, which on the street they 100% do.

[6spdhyperblue]

Originally Posted by 2SS Capt

Not to mention the crappy single piston caliper rear brakes on the LT1 that can't be upgraded to the SS 4 piston Brembo rear calipers...

Run a 16” drag pack on the lt1

It has the $750 gmpp drag brake from the factory for SS/Z cars

[TexasRed5.9]

Originally Posted by Chutzpah

Hold on a second here, didn’t you pull the stock high performance pads and replace with lower performance dusting pads? Maybe spent some time and a couple hundred bucks doing so? (which to me makes sense, I hate the dusting too). In the LT1, no dusting from the factory. Believe me when I say it, the car stops fine. I really can’t think of a time on the street that I’d need more braking power. I’ve intentionally pushed the car to test them (as best a reasonable and responsible). I just don’t think calling the rears crappy… is fair. Not as good, sure… but crappy to me means they don’t perform their intended function, which on the street they 100% do.

I agree. I've pushed my car pretty hard and that thing will stop on a dime. Now obviously it won't handle the autocross rigors like the SS, but they are more than adequate for street use. Besides, the point of the smaller brakes on the back of the LT1 is to allow for a set of 17" drag pack wheels. These cars were intended for us straight line warriors and minimalist enthusiasts.

[Red Chief]

Neither car is cheap by any stretch, its really more about how you plan on using it. After 7 years running on 6 cylinders I was just happy to finally have a torquey V8.

Anything with a 6.2L and 450hp is more than most pickups have...you'll get plenty of respect either way.

[ZPirate]

The good thing about the Camaro is that there are so many different variants. Something for almost everyone, including when it comes to V8 models. Having the ability to choose between basically three different naturally aspirated V8 models (LT1, SS and SS 1LE) is unheard of with most cars. So if you want a naturally aspirated V8 you get to choose which of those models best suits your needs/wants and your pocketbook. How lucky are we to be able to have so many good choices.

[SSlayer]

I had a 2017 1SS with just intake and 6 pistons up front and now have a 2022 LT1 with E85, intake, 6 pistons, 275 pilot sport 4S on all corners and it absolutely sucks on the track compared to the 1SS. Brakes with DOT 4 fluid were cooked after 4 laps on a track that maxes out at 105mph. Melted both my front center caps and lost nearly all brake function yet I have never had a single issue with the 1SS after 6 OTDs. I absolutely hate the LT1 and miss my 1SS every day.

[keep_hope_alive]

FWIW, I did image comparisons between the LT1 and 1SS when I was making my order. Since this thread makes the comparison, i'll share the images.

[Chutzpah]

Originally Posted by keep_hope_alive

FWIW, I did image comparisons between the LT1 and 1SS when I was making my order. Since this thread makes the comparison, i'll share the images.

Looks like you possibly added the RS package to the LT1? If so, admittedly, I don’t there’s a lot of value in getting the RS package (even though, I have it.. just ended up that way). If it’s straight up LT1 to 1SS, no packages included on either one, it’s more like a $3500 delta. Either way, I think both are good value for the $.

[keep_hope_alive]

Originally Posted by Chutzpah

Looks like you possibly added the RS package to the LT1? If so, admittedly, I don’t there’s a lot of value in getting the RS package (even though, I have it.. just ended up that way). If it’s straight up LT1 to 1SS, no packages included on either one, it’s more like a $3500 delta. Either way, I think both are good value for the $.

I wanted the RS package on the LT1 for the improved aesthetics, so the two images are the model I initially ordered (LT1 RS) and the one I finally chose (1SS). For me, the improved nose and charcoal tail lights on the RS are needed for #LT or LT1.

[Chutzpah]

Originally Posted by SSlayer

I had a 2017 1SS with just intake and 6 pistons up front and now have a 2022 LT1 with E85, intake, 6 pistons, 275 pilot sport 4S on all corners and it absolutely sucks on the track compared to the 1SS. Brakes with DOT 4 fluid were cooked after 4 laps on a track that maxes out at 105mph. Melted both my front center caps and lost nearly all brake function yet I have never had a single issue with the 1SS after 6 OTDs. I absolutely hate the LT1 and miss my 1SS every day.

Instead of complaining about it, maybe you should dump your non track ready car and buy a 1LE? Seriously, that’s just common sense. And.. I’m not sure what really sucks means, just the brakes or basically everything?

[Chutzpah]

Originally Posted by keep_hope_alive

I wanted the RS package on the LT1 for the improved aesthetics, so the two images are the model I initially ordered (LT1 RS) and the one I finally chose (1SS). For me, the improved nose and charcoal tail lights on the RS are needed for #LT or LT1.

Yea, I don’t disagree with you on the aesthetics. The LT1 does look better with the RS package.

[keep_hope_alive]

Originally Posted by SSlayer

I had a 2017 1SS with just intake and 6 pistons up front and now have a 2022 LT1 with E85, intake, 6 pistons, 275 pilot sport 4S on all corners and it absolutely sucks on the track compared to the 1SS. Brakes with DOT 4 fluid were cooked after 4 laps on a track that maxes out at 105mph. Melted both my front center caps and lost nearly all brake function yet I have never had a single issue with the 1SS after 6 OTDs. I absolutely hate the LT1 and miss my 1SS every day.

What's different about the brake cooling package between the two? Does the LT1 not have a legit brake cooling duct from the front facia?

[Chutzpah]

Originally Posted by keep_hope_alive

What's different about the brake cooling package between the two? Does the LT1 not have a legit brake cooling duct from the front facia?

From the best I can tell, the LT1 has the same fender liner opening / venting. I seem to remember the SS has some type of plastic deflector that either needs to be removed or added (maybe both) before tracking. The LT1 comes as is.

The LT1 Brembo caliper hardware looks a bit different to me.. I know for certain the pads are not the same as the SS. I’m assuming they’re ceramic or a perhaps hybrid to closely match the GM rear brake material, and to reduce cost.