Saints punishment - Page 3

PoorMansCamaro · 03-22-2012, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3 SS's

I guess if they really wanted to drop the hammer, they could have made Sean Peyton coach the Dolphins for a season.

now that would be awesome...for the fins. lmao

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2ndgenz28

"When Hall of Fame tailback Tony Dorsett was getting slammed to the turf in the 1970s, or Super Bowl-winning QB Joe Theismann’s leg was being gruesomely broken by Lawrence Taylor in the 1980s, it was just football."

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...es-concussions

more than likely, the offenders didn't get paid extra money to hit Dorsett or to break Theismann's leg. That was the dumbest article i have ever read...

CJ Man · 03-22-2012, 06:50 PM

My thoughts are the saints got the right amount of punishment! They lied to the league on numerous occasion!

I wish the jets can get their Front office suspended for the tebow move!

PoorMansCamaro · 03-22-2012, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJ Man

My thoughts are the saints got the right amount of punishment! They lied to the league on numerous occasion!

I wish the jets can get their Front office suspended for the tebow move!

Tebow will start at some point next year.

CJ Man · 03-22-2012, 07:19 PM

I will put money on that not happening! Yes of Sanchez has a bad series or game the fans will be calling for tebow, but they would have been doing that had Jason Campbell, henne, or Orton was the back up!

Obviously the jets front office doesnt listen to the hoopla! If they did holmes would be gone, manning would be qb, Rex would be fired, tebow wouldn't be a jet!

I don't like the move personally, but the alternative is drew Stanton and it fits the coaches philosophy as much as I hate it the wildcat game plan! I think there were bigger holes then qb!

2ndgenz28 · 03-22-2012, 07:26 PM

Jets could get top pick of every player in the league and still fail

CJ Man · 03-22-2012, 08:15 PM

So could saints, colts, fins, pats, etc. last I checked 31 teams fail every year

Ladybugsmom · 03-23-2012, 09:24 PM

Now they're tracing this bounty thing back to the Redskins too.... How many more heads will roll??

PoorMansCamaro · 04-23-2012, 06:44 PM

and it just doesn't stop...for the saints...

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/...hes-home-games

wow...just wow...

AZCamaroFan · 04-23-2012, 06:56 PM

if this is true it completely invalidates the Super Bowl title

Rhyder · 04-23-2012, 07:12 PM

The penalties were in line with the crime, there is no doubt that the coach and management knew this was going on. They were under investigation and nothing was found and the investigation was suspended.

After the security questioned everyone, the fact that someone didnt go into the office/locker room and state something to the effect, I dont know if this was going on or not, but it stops now, and then at least appeared to take steps to prevent it from continuing or even starting. Didnt even appearently have a meeting about it, that shows a complete disregard for the rules and a feeling that they could do what they wanted.

As to weather any hits were done or anyone injured or not, that has no bearing on the case. If I and a bunch of friends plan a robbery and get arrested at the door before we make it into the bank, it doesnt matter that we never made it into the bank, we still get charged with attempted robbery and are sentenced as if we had actually held the place up before getting arrested.

and why does everyone bring up the "spy gate" issue? Other than breaking the rules, what similarity does "Bounty Gate" have with that crime? was Spygate cheating? yes. wrong? yes. potentially crippling or life ending? not even remotly, but Bounty Gate is all those and potentially crippling or life ending as well.

and last of all, someone has to be the first.......if its been going on forever, its obviously the teams werent going to do it on thier own, so someone needed to step in, and based on the fact that the teams werent going to do the right thing, they need to step in hard, send a message that will be remembered for many years. They did that.

If anything I think they were a little to lenient. But lets be honest, I think there was a good balance, is the penalty going to cause New Orleans to spiral down into a 20 year slump as the worst team in the NFL? No. Will it really even cause them to for sure come in last place in the division? not even close. They were punished, and punished big time, but they have a solid organization. The loss of the head Coach will hurt, and the GM if they lose someone major in the first few games, but in the long run, this was not a franchise killing event like everyone makes it out to be, not even a year ender for this season.

Hurt yes, kill no. and at the end of the day thats what punishment is meant to do, if you dont cause a little hurt at the start, you get no reform later when your talking big business like the NFL.

I think the only thing that would be a franchise killer for this year is if Brees doesnt sign at least before a significant amount of practice time has elapsed.

PoorMansCamaro · 04-23-2012, 07:15 PM

and the new allogations?

arod55 · 04-23-2012, 07:45 PM

I like the penalty given out, because it the same defensive coordinator who put S. Merriman out when he was with the Chargers, he was never the same. I feel that he is entiled to suit for his ongoing injury. And no I am not a lawyer or have ever sued anybody. Just my opinion.

Rhyder · 04-24-2012, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by aSSian

and the new allogations?

other than further interuption and distraction to the team, nothing much will come of it. Unless the spy equipment is still in place and wired to his booth, if it was I imagine within an hour after this was released it was removed, what do they have as proof?

I believe it said in one article I was reading the statute of limitations was 3 years for listening in by electronic or mechanical devices. If thats true the only thing they can do on the law side is prove he did it, no punishment.

Now the NFL can punish him, and will, and if proven he will lose his job following so closely on Bounty Gate, but even thats a worse case scenario.

I dont want to understate how much more damage this new distraction is going to cause, and what else will be found out, something not related always comes up when people are questioned by the feds, and it surprising what songs the birdies will sing to save thier bacon............it aint over.......

3 SS's · 09-07-2012, 05:15 PM

very interesting turn of events today....now, what about the coaches ?

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03-22-2012, 06:50 PM	#30
CJ Man Missing my SS :( Drives: 2012 Ford Explorer [ :( ] Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,640	My thoughts are the saints got the right amount of punishment! They lied to the league on numerous occasion! I wish the jets can get their Front office suspended for the tebow move!

03-22-2012, 07:19 PM	#32
CJ Man Missing my SS :( Drives: 2012 Ford Explorer [ :( ] Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,640	I will put money on that not happening! Yes of Sanchez has a bad series or game the fans will be calling for tebow, but they would have been doing that had Jason Campbell, henne, or Orton was the back up! Obviously the jets front office doesnt listen to the hoopla! If they did holmes would be gone, manning would be qb, Rex would be fired, tebow wouldn't be a jet! I don't like the move personally, but the alternative is drew Stanton and it fits the coaches philosophy as much as I hate it the wildcat game plan! I think there were bigger holes then qb!

03-22-2012, 07:26 PM	#33
2ndgenz28 Thread Killer Drives: All Black Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: NWO Toledo Area Posts: 4,720	Jets could get top pick of every player in the league and still fail

03-22-2012, 08:15 PM	#34
CJ Man Missing my SS :( Drives: 2012 Ford Explorer [ :( ] Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,640	So could saints, colts, fins, pats, etc. last I checked 31 teams fail every year

04-23-2012, 06:56 PM	#37
AZCamaroFan Camaro6 2016-2018 Drives: sometimes Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 18,450	if this is true it completely invalidates the Super Bowl title

04-23-2012, 07:12 PM	#38
Rhyder Drives: 2012 45 Anniversary Vert Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: atlanta Posts: 2,511	The penalties were in line with the crime, there is no doubt that the coach and management knew this was going on. They were under investigation and nothing was found and the investigation was suspended. After the security questioned everyone, the fact that someone didnt go into the office/locker room and state something to the effect, I dont know if this was going on or not, but it stops now, and then at least appeared to take steps to prevent it from continuing or even starting. Didnt even appearently have a meeting about it, that shows a complete disregard for the rules and a feeling that they could do what they wanted. As to weather any hits were done or anyone injured or not, that has no bearing on the case. If I and a bunch of friends plan a robbery and get arrested at the door before we make it into the bank, it doesnt matter that we never made it into the bank, we still get charged with attempted robbery and are sentenced as if we had actually held the place up before getting arrested. and why does everyone bring up the "spy gate" issue? Other than breaking the rules, what similarity does "Bounty Gate" have with that crime? was Spygate cheating? yes. wrong? yes. potentially crippling or life ending? not even remotly, but Bounty Gate is all those and potentially crippling or life ending as well. and last of all, someone has to be the first.......if its been going on forever, its obviously the teams werent going to do it on thier own, so someone needed to step in, and based on the fact that the teams werent going to do the right thing, they need to step in hard, send a message that will be remembered for many years. They did that. If anything I think they were a little to lenient. But lets be honest, I think there was a good balance, is the penalty going to cause New Orleans to spiral down into a 20 year slump as the worst team in the NFL? No. Will it really even cause them to for sure come in last place in the division? not even close. They were punished, and punished big time, but they have a solid organization. The loss of the head Coach will hurt, and the GM if they lose someone major in the first few games, but in the long run, this was not a franchise killing event like everyone makes it out to be, not even a year ender for this season. Hurt yes, kill no. and at the end of the day thats what punishment is meant to do, if you dont cause a little hurt at the start, you get no reform later when your talking big business like the NFL. I think the only thing that would be a franchise killer for this year is if Brees doesnt sign at least before a significant amount of practice time has elapsed.

04-23-2012, 07:45 PM	#40
arod55 AROD55 Drives: 1955 Chevy Bel Air Hardtop Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Bonita, Ca. 91902 Posts: 1,863 View My Garage	I like the penalty given out, because it the same defensive coordinator who put S. Merriman out when he was with the Chargers, he was never the same. I feel that he is entiled to suit for his ongoing injury. And no I am not a lawyer or have ever sued anybody. Just my opinion.

09-07-2012, 05:15 PM	#42
3 SS's Drives: Chevelle SS's Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: outta my mind Posts: 3,034 View My Garage	very interesting turn of events today....now, what about the coaches ?

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