Homepage Garage Wiki Register Members List Social Groups Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
#Camaro6
Go Back   CAMARO6 > Technical Camaro Topics > Camaro DIY & HOW-TO instructions & discussions


Bigwormgraphix


Post Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 05-14-2018, 07:01 AM   #29
Nitro66215
 
Nitro66215's Avatar
 
Drives: 2017 ZL1 Vert - M6,SIM,CFW,NAV
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: United States
Posts: 492
Success! Pics and details to come..... I did not get many thorough pics... Sorry... had a monsoon roll in and rushed through some steps.

Remove the ground battery terminal before starting... give your system type to dissipate...

I think the next obvious first step is to make sure you have all of the parts ready and set aside.

Then... remove the radio display and the dash trim pad... See pictures. A plastic trim tool was used to pry the radio buttons bezel up.







Then.... look at the PDF "Instrument Panel Upper Trim Panel Cover Replacement" ... This gives you all of the steps to remove the front and top panels.

Use an angled 7mm tool or a ratchet to get the "windshield side" screws out.



Remove both pilar trims. Be careful on the driver side. There is a microphone in the top section that is only hot glued in. Pop the top clips out just hard enough to get to the wire.





The front panel has a leather piece under the cluster... be very careful prying that up. See photos I did with the trim tool.




Now that the panel is loose... remove the plugs from the Start button and the dimmer switch. Both have release tabs. Power switch is on the side facing the passenger.




If you are using the original panel and adding the HUD switch, there is a cutout line on the back... I used a dremel with a drill bit style cutter to cut the hole out. Be very careful not to go too far out of the lines.







I replaced my top dash cover... but you can cut out the HUD Bezel area with the guide lines under the cover...



Now... you should be able to remove the instrument cluster. If you removed the cluster before removing the top dash cover... like I did (smh).. ... it's trickier.... Be careful when attempting to access the top 2 screws. You need a long extension... and a magnetic tool to grab the screw so it isn't lost.




The first connector to remove on the back of the cluster is the USB cable. This is closest to the passenger side of the vehicle. Then the main data/power cable. This has a swivel type lock. Pry up the tab so that it swivels over the connector and slides out of the socket. The only photo I took was on how to get the connector apart to add the necessary wires. You can see the swivel locking mechanism already "bent back". Using a small plastic trim tool... you can pry the connector apart.



Here's where I lost time and photos. Sorry. Mounting the HUD to the metal frame wasn't bad. There are 4 mounting points. The 2 closest to the driver have 2 holes each. The OUTER holes is where the screw "nuts" go. On the 2 holes in the back of the dash (window side), there is only 1 hole. Place these nuts in the small cutout area already there as guides. Do not complete the assembly until you fully integrate the 8 pin wire. You have 1 wire going from X1 pin 1 to the instrument cluster X1 pin 21. I purchased a pack of terminals (listed in the parts list) and crimped the wire direct so that it can go into the cluster easily. The power wire was T-tapped off of the Red/BU wire in the instrument cluster X1 pin 7. Ground was T-tapped off of the cluster as well. X1 pin 19. Wire up the switch controls per the diagram. I just used barrel connectors for that.



EDIT: I forgot to add... If you read the diagram properly, you'll note that the 4 wire switch connector for the HUD switch has 1 wire going to LED Dimmer control. This will be tapped off of the dimmer knob just above the switches. Pin 5 ... solid yellow wire.



For the HUD... that's pretty much it. However, since I have the UHS display now... I had to get the MOST wiring done so that the radio/nav etc worked. This is where it got tricky. At first I figured I would just tap the harness behind the cluster. This was way too tight of an area. So.. I noted that the wires were a twisted pair. White/Grn and Gray/Vt. One set of wires goes from the HMI to the Cluster... and the other comes from the radio to the amp... to the cluster. For the standard cluster, these wires bypass it and go from the radio to amp... and amp to HMI.

The best place of access is the driver side floor trim by the door. See photos. I inserted a staple (yeah... small wire) into pin 2 of X2 of the HMI.... and wrapped a wire around it and 1 end of my meter. Then after pulling the trim apart and accessing the wires... I found the colors needed. Pin 2 of X2 is the white / green wire. Twisted pairs... you should find 2 pairs. Slightly pierce the jacket of one of the white / green wires with your meter until you find the correct pair going to the HMI. Once found... cut both that wire and the gray /purple twisted with. Then run 2 sets of twisted wires going from the cluster to these wires. Pins X1 17 and 18 to to the wires closest to the front of the vehicle (going to the HMI). Pins X1 1 and 2 go to the wires going to the back of the vehicle (amp).



MOST Control is on X1 pin 5 of the cluster. Since I had the IO5 originally... my wire existed.

I know I missed a few steps... but wiring the switches and taping / wire tying is the rest. Then the reverse for re-assembly.

Will edit more later....
Attached Images
                             
Attached Images
File Type: pdf Instrument Panel Upper Trim Panel Cover Replacement.pdf (780.3 KB, 218 views)
__________________
***********************************************
2018 2SS Vert - Hot Wheels - Indy 500 #30

2017 ZL1 Vert - M6 , SIM, CFW, NAV

2017 RS 1LT 2.0T Vert - A8, Garnet Red - SOLD :-(
Added - IO6 - NAV, UHS - Enhanced Display, K4C - Wireless Charger, UV6 -
Heads-Up Display - DIY

2011 CTS-V - Black / Black - SOLD. :-(
2013 ZL1 - Black / Black - SOLD. :-(
2010 2SS - Indy 500 Pace Car. - SOLD. :-(
2002 Z28 - Pewter / Black - SOLD. :-(

Last edited by Nitro66215; 05-14-2018 at 02:52 PM.
Nitro66215 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2018, 12:51 PM   #30
Nitro66215
 
Nitro66215's Avatar
 
Drives: 2017 ZL1 Vert - M6,SIM,CFW,NAV
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: United States
Posts: 492
This pic didn't attach... and I had a meeting to go to...
Attached Images
 
__________________
***********************************************
2018 2SS Vert - Hot Wheels - Indy 500 #30

2017 ZL1 Vert - M6 , SIM, CFW, NAV

2017 RS 1LT 2.0T Vert - A8, Garnet Red - SOLD :-(
Added - IO6 - NAV, UHS - Enhanced Display, K4C - Wireless Charger, UV6 -
Heads-Up Display - DIY

2011 CTS-V - Black / Black - SOLD. :-(
2013 ZL1 - Black / Black - SOLD. :-(
2010 2SS - Indy 500 Pace Car. - SOLD. :-(
2002 Z28 - Pewter / Black - SOLD. :-(
Nitro66215 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2018, 12:49 PM   #31
Austin_504
 
Drives: 2016 Camaro RS 2.0t
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 78
How much was it in all?
Austin_504 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2018, 12:52 PM   #32
Nitro66215
 
Nitro66215's Avatar
 
Drives: 2017 ZL1 Vert - M6,SIM,CFW,NAV
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: United States
Posts: 492
Quote:
Originally Posted by Austin_504 View Post
How much was it in all?
You don't want to know.... lol...

For only the HUD? The cluster and IO6 Nav was added as well.
__________________
***********************************************
2018 2SS Vert - Hot Wheels - Indy 500 #30

2017 ZL1 Vert - M6 , SIM, CFW, NAV

2017 RS 1LT 2.0T Vert - A8, Garnet Red - SOLD :-(
Added - IO6 - NAV, UHS - Enhanced Display, K4C - Wireless Charger, UV6 -
Heads-Up Display - DIY

2011 CTS-V - Black / Black - SOLD. :-(
2013 ZL1 - Black / Black - SOLD. :-(
2010 2SS - Indy 500 Pace Car. - SOLD. :-(
2002 Z28 - Pewter / Black - SOLD. :-(
Nitro66215 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2018, 01:24 PM   #33
Nitro66215
 
Nitro66215's Avatar
 
Drives: 2017 ZL1 Vert - M6,SIM,CFW,NAV
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: United States
Posts: 492
Cluster $520.94. $300 programmed WITH HUD option. $250 without.

IO6 HMI - $520.76. $50 programmed

HUD - Retail for all parts.... just to get it working... NO MOST wiring....
HUD - $399.19
Upper Trim Cover - $145.27
HUD Trim Bezel - $20.22
HUD Switches - $48.32
Front Dash Trim - $139.21
Bezel for Switches - $9.72
X1 Cable - $17.96
USB Cable - $61.03
Switches Cable - $34.51
1 wire for Cluster to HUD = $5.77
Bolts (x10... need 4) = $10.80
Nuts (4) = $18.72
Total if purchased retail = $910.72

My Cost after eBay and other purchases..... $632.97

Cost to get wires needed for MOST configuration...

Retail
Cluster wires - X4 - $23.08
Stranded wire - 22gauge... varies... about $5

so $28. or so.

My cost ... 100 Pin terminals purchased (only way) ... and wire... $20.

Retailish - Whole job with programming... HUD + Cluster + HMI + MOST Wiring = $2330.6

My costish - $2044.85

I purchased the Cluster and HMI to be exactly what would be in my car. Not used parts. Finding used parts that could be programmed to the car isn't too easy if you want the exact cluster reading. SS cluster is fine... just have to get Chris to program special. The HMI wasn't too easy to find either. Getting the right one that will work in the US and not be an EXPORT HMI was crazy. I went through 2 "cheap" purchases on eBay and had to return both because they were exported modules. They do not have USA maps.
__________________
***********************************************
2018 2SS Vert - Hot Wheels - Indy 500 #30

2017 ZL1 Vert - M6 , SIM, CFW, NAV

2017 RS 1LT 2.0T Vert - A8, Garnet Red - SOLD :-(
Added - IO6 - NAV, UHS - Enhanced Display, K4C - Wireless Charger, UV6 -
Heads-Up Display - DIY

2011 CTS-V - Black / Black - SOLD. :-(
2013 ZL1 - Black / Black - SOLD. :-(
2010 2SS - Indy 500 Pace Car. - SOLD. :-(
2002 Z28 - Pewter / Black - SOLD. :-(
Nitro66215 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2018, 11:02 AM   #34
AchiliesSS
 
AchiliesSS's Avatar
 
Drives: 2017 Black on Black 1SS
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 82
Hey brother I have a question, you say you had to have the Cluster itself programmed to work with the hud. I have a 1ss obviously with the enhanced display do you think I would have to have the gauge cluster reprogramed as well? and if so how do I get InTouch with who programmed yours.
AchiliesSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2018, 11:17 AM   #35
cooper1965
Coopers Camaro
 
cooper1965's Avatar
 
Drives: 18 Flex Fuel LTG
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: St. Louis/Sullivan/Washington MO
Posts: 905
Nice work my friend, nice work !!
__________________
Flex Fuel tuned by me using HPT-:-


---My Build Thread---
-----My IG PAGe-----
cooper1965 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2018, 11:19 AM   #36
Nitro66215
 
Nitro66215's Avatar
 
Drives: 2017 ZL1 Vert - M6,SIM,CFW,NAV
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: United States
Posts: 492
Quote:
Originally Posted by AchiliesSS View Post
Hey brother I have a question, you say you had to have the Cluster itself programmed to work with the hud. I have a 1ss obviously with the enhanced display do you think I would have to have the gauge cluster reprogramed as well? and if so how do I get InTouch with who programmed yours.
Easiest way to find out if you need it programmed... is to add the hardware. If it works.... you're golden. If not.... Get with Chris at White Auto and Media Services. WAMS

GTPprix on this forum
__________________
***********************************************
2018 2SS Vert - Hot Wheels - Indy 500 #30

2017 ZL1 Vert - M6 , SIM, CFW, NAV

2017 RS 1LT 2.0T Vert - A8, Garnet Red - SOLD :-(
Added - IO6 - NAV, UHS - Enhanced Display, K4C - Wireless Charger, UV6 -
Heads-Up Display - DIY

2011 CTS-V - Black / Black - SOLD. :-(
2013 ZL1 - Black / Black - SOLD. :-(
2010 2SS - Indy 500 Pace Car. - SOLD. :-(
2002 Z28 - Pewter / Black - SOLD. :-(
Nitro66215 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2018, 11:22 AM   #37
Nitro66215
 
Nitro66215's Avatar
 
Drives: 2017 ZL1 Vert - M6,SIM,CFW,NAV
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: United States
Posts: 492
Quote:
Originally Posted by cooper1965 View Post
Nice work my friend, nice work !!
Thanks....

Some more changes....
Attached Images
   
__________________
***********************************************
2018 2SS Vert - Hot Wheels - Indy 500 #30

2017 ZL1 Vert - M6 , SIM, CFW, NAV

2017 RS 1LT 2.0T Vert - A8, Garnet Red - SOLD :-(
Added - IO6 - NAV, UHS - Enhanced Display, K4C - Wireless Charger, UV6 -
Heads-Up Display - DIY

2011 CTS-V - Black / Black - SOLD. :-(
2013 ZL1 - Black / Black - SOLD. :-(
2010 2SS - Indy 500 Pace Car. - SOLD. :-(
2002 Z28 - Pewter / Black - SOLD. :-(
Nitro66215 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2018, 07:38 AM   #38
AchiliesSS
 
AchiliesSS's Avatar
 
Drives: 2017 Black on Black 1SS
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 82
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nitro66215 View Post
Easiest way to find out if you need it programmed... is to add the hardware. If it works.... you're golden. If not.... Get with Chris at White Auto and Media Services. WAMS

GTPprix on this forum
Thanks for the link brother, what they do is amazing unfortunately they are backlogged but I have a few more thi ng s to order anyhow
AchiliesSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2019, 08:31 AM   #39
Lt4zl1
 
Lt4zl1's Avatar
 
Drives: 2017 zl1 camaro
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Florida
Posts: 46
Do you have part numbers for the gm plugs you bought that went to the switch and the cluster? I’m doing this on a Cadillac CTS v sport adding the hud and enhanced cluster. Luckily these have nav and all the other goodies so it’s just a dash and the hud with switches with dash panel. So far I have it all done down to hooking the hud switches to the cluster so it moves correctly then tying the hud to the radio. I bought used stuff but unfortunately they didn’t leave the connectors in the parts with the wires just clipped off. I was hoping it’s a separate harness but guess not and it’s part of the main one. Gm never keeps much simple. Lol
__________________
9.52@143 with stock blower stock heads and stock cam boost only. Running a jokerz performance full tilt v1 ported blower. Current bolt on only 6th gen zl1 boost only record holder and on top of the heads and cam records.
Lt4zl1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2019, 09:39 AM   #40
Nitro66215
 
Nitro66215's Avatar
 
Drives: 2017 ZL1 Vert - M6,SIM,CFW,NAV
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: United States
Posts: 492
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lt4zl1 View Post
Do you have part numbers for the gm plugs you bought that went to the switch and the cluster? Iím doing this on a Cadillac CTS v sport adding the hud and enhanced cluster. Luckily these have nav and all the other goodies so itís just a dash and the hud with switches with dash panel. So far I have it all done down to hooking the hud switches to the cluster so it moves correctly then tying the hud to the radio. I bought used stuff but unfortunately they didnít leave the connectors in the parts with the wires just clipped off. I was hoping itís a separate harness but guess not and itís part of the main one. Gm never keeps much simple. Lol

3 button switch connector. PT3130 / 19300398
The cluster has it's own connector already there. It's just added pins.

If you look at the very first post of this thread, I did list all of the part numbers... at least I think I did. Lol
__________________
***********************************************
2018 2SS Vert - Hot Wheels - Indy 500 #30

2017 ZL1 Vert - M6 , SIM, CFW, NAV

2017 RS 1LT 2.0T Vert - A8, Garnet Red - SOLD :-(
Added - IO6 - NAV, UHS - Enhanced Display, K4C - Wireless Charger, UV6 -
Heads-Up Display - DIY

2011 CTS-V - Black / Black - SOLD. :-(
2013 ZL1 - Black / Black - SOLD. :-(
2010 2SS - Indy 500 Pace Car. - SOLD. :-(
2002 Z28 - Pewter / Black - SOLD. :-(
Nitro66215 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2020, 02:42 PM   #41
firstcamaroowner
 
Drives: Chevy Camaro ZL1
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: MD
Posts: 17
Awesome job.



One question regarding the speed limit on the cluster. In order to get the speed limit info do you need to subscribe to XM NavTraffic? I have a 2018 with IO5 and I want to upgrade to IO6 to get the traffic to display on the cluster and HUD.
firstcamaroowner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2020, 02:45 PM   #42
Nitro66215
 
Nitro66215's Avatar
 
Drives: 2017 ZL1 Vert - M6,SIM,CFW,NAV
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: United States
Posts: 492
Quote:
Originally Posted by firstcamaroowner View Post
Awesome job.



One question regarding the speed limit on the cluster. In order to get the speed limit info do you need to subscribe to XM NavTraffic? I have a 2018 with IO5 and I want to upgrade to IO6 to get the traffic to display on the cluster and HUD.
To be honest, I cannot remember. It think the speed limit was from the Maps. It's not updated unless the maps are up to date. I could be wrong though.
__________________
***********************************************
2018 2SS Vert - Hot Wheels - Indy 500 #30

2017 ZL1 Vert - M6 , SIM, CFW, NAV

2017 RS 1LT 2.0T Vert - A8, Garnet Red - SOLD :-(
Added - IO6 - NAV, UHS - Enhanced Display, K4C - Wireless Charger, UV6 -
Heads-Up Display - DIY

2011 CTS-V - Black / Black - SOLD. :-(
2013 ZL1 - Black / Black - SOLD. :-(
2010 2SS - Indy 500 Pace Car. - SOLD. :-(
2002 Z28 - Pewter / Black - SOLD. :-(
Nitro66215 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Post Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:14 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.