[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by laynlo15

You should see a couple tenths pick up with DR's

Let me try this again before every Tom, Dick and Harry goes out and wastes money on drag radials for their auto sixth gens...

If you track has good prep, which most good drag strips should have, there is no need and you will be wasting your money.

The stock converter, along with the numerically low rear gears are soft launching. Plus, the stock converter flashes best off idle. So...if you are dead hooking at your track (like most are under these conditions) a tire won't do squat. If you are hooking at the desired launch rpm, a drag radial will not do a thing except cost you money...I have tons of experience drag racing both autos and manuals. Before you waste your money, try your local track a few times first...at mine, it would be a complete waste of money and time on a car like this.

[laynlo15]

I'm not buying anything till I run my car. So, please don't lecture me since you have no idea who I'm am or what my past is in drag racing. You might look at my rides that I've raced in the past. Then you might check the guys who have run drag radials after they have run bone stock. So, its all good. I'm not going to get in a battle with you or anyone else about what to buy or how to run my car.

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by laynlo15

I'm not buying anything till I run my car. So, please don't lecture me since you have no idea who I'm am or what my past is in drag racing. You might look at my rides that I've raced in the past. Then you might check the guys who have run drag radials after they have run bone stock. So, its all good. I'm not going to get in a battle with you or anyone else about what to buy or how to run my car.

Well when you make a statement like "you should pick up a couple tenths", that is leading me to believe you have little experience regarding multi-overdrive late model autos. Because unless your track has terrible prep and you're spinning, you will not gain "a couple tenths" on a stock A8 just by adding drag radials. I can tell you that from first hand experience. Heck, my buddy in NJ was spinning a little at his mediocre track, added drag radials, gained a tenth. Two people I know of with new A8 SS's in my club who dead hooked wasted money on drag radials. They each gained nothing. One actually lost a little trap speed. No reason to get so defensive, but what you said may mislead others in a thread created by someone else specifically asking about this...

[oldman]

Originally Posted by SS 1LE

Stock car, well prepped strip...no drag radials needed.

I've included what pics I have. These are Hoosier 28/10.5/17 Slicks. I've cut a best of a 1.52 60" foot with them

I think that is proof you are wrong, cause even at the best track on the planet you are not getting 1.52 with stock tires.

[laynlo15]

Really? It is possible you could have a lower trap speed and I'll agree with you on that. So, lets not argue about drag racing. You have your opinion and I have mine. We all have Camaros so lets just have fun with them and I'll post my times as I run them and we shall see what happens. We are done, have a good one.

[oldman]

Originally Posted by SS

Let me try this again before every Tom, Dick and Harry goes out and wastes money on drag radials for their auto sixth gens...

If you track has good prep, which most good drag strips should have, there is no need and you will be wasting your money.

The stock converter, along with the numerically low rear gears are soft launching.

You lost me on the gear ratio, the lower the gear the easier it is to blow the tire away. But you know that right?

[CAPerformance16]

Originally Posted by laynlo15

CA, are those 17x8 or 9's or 10's?

As OLDMAN said, they are 17x9.5's and I am running a 28/10.5/17 Hoosier on them.



Drag radials will add consistency. Aside from a Rental, your average TNT has many cars on street tires that tear up prep.

Also, dead hooking will drop your trap, as you spend less time accerating.

And our cars have a 2.97 rear gear, but a 4.56 first. That's asking alot of any stock tire. Sure if your track preps like it's an X275 event you'll hook but most won't. Start adding mods, and a DR is a must have.

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by oldman

I've included what pics I have. These are Hoosier 28/10.5/17 Slicks. I've cut a best of a 1.52 60" foot with them

I think that is proof you are wrong, cause even at the best track on the planet you are not getting 1.52 with stock tires.

You are aware that car is from from stock right? I mentioned STOCK car...of course with mods you are going to need a tire...

Originally Posted by oldman

You lost me on the gear ratio, the lower the gear the easier it is to blow the tire away. But you know that right?

Again, are you reading what I write? I'm begining to think your username fits you well.

I said NUMERICALLY lower gears. A 4:11 will be easier to break loose than a 2:73...of course.

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by laynlo15

Really? It is possible you could have a lower trap speed and I'll agree with you on that. So, lets not argue about drag racing. You have your opinion and I have mine. We all have Camaros so lets just have fun with them and I'll post my times as I run them and we shall see what happens. We are done, have a good one.

Sounds good!

[laynlo15]

I did forget one thing since I don't know anything about late model overdrives. My g8 before the supercharger would run 13.30 with street tires and 13.11 with drag radials and my g8 had almost identical 1st gear as my new Camaro, both in the 4.5 range and 12.20's with street tires and 11.80's after the supercharger with drag radials. So, what I've found on my cars is that you will pick up. If you pick up your 60' time you should also pick up on your ets. So, keep on drag racing with or with drag radials, its all good.

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by laynlo15

I did forget one thing since I don't know anything about late model overdrives. My g8 before the supercharger would run 13.30 with street tires and 13.11 with drag radials and my g8 had almost identical 1st gear as my new Camaro, both in the 4.5 range and 12.20's with street tires and 11.80's after the supercharger with drag radials. I don't know it all but I have a hell of a lot more knowledge then you think. Sorry your buddies car didn't pick up, mine have

How much wheel spin did you have with the stock tires? Just a moderate amount?

[jessrayo]

Here is what you need to know about a '16 SS with A8:

You don't need drag radials if you want to run in the 12's.
You do need drag radials if you want to run in the 11's.

[ParisTNDude]

Originally Posted by CAPerformance16

I've included what pics I have. These are Hoosier 28/10.5/17 Slicks. I've cut a best of a 1.52 60" foot with them.

Thanks for the pictures, I really appreciate it. I thought they should fit...they were really close on my Grand Sport. I thought I used the 05 Z06 wheels on my 5th gen Camaro, but don't remember...I'm old...lol. I probably won't use the grinding wheel unless I have trouble hooking with the stock wheels/tires. I would be real happy with sub 1.9 60ft times on stock tires as I've read on the forum.

Originally Posted by laynlo15

I ran the corvette wheels on my supercharged g8gt for my drag radials.. I just wanted to see what he was running on his hoosiers. I'm probably just go ahead and run a 20" drag radial after I get my new wheels for the car and use my 5 spoke 20x9.5's for my Dr's or go back to an 18 on the rear. A few more options in the 18's then the 20's. I'd like to have a little more side wall also. I think it will launch better as it did on my g8.

I probably wouldn't buy DRs with my automatic. My 5th Gen with full bolt ons never needed DRs and I had it running 12.48 or so with 1.8 60 foot times. But, I have new MT drag radials on the Z06 wheels sitting in the garage. Certainly worth trying if traction becomes a problem. Otherwise, I'll sell them easily on the Corvette Forum. I used them for about 5 runs at last year's Holley LS Fest on my 6M Grand Sport.

Originally Posted by SS 1LE

Let me try this again before every Tom, Dick and Harry goes out and wastes money on drag radials for their auto sixth gens...

If you track has good prep, which most good drag strips should have, there is no need and you will be wasting your money.

The stock converter, along with the numerically low rear gears are soft launching. Plus, the stock converter flashes best off idle. So...if you are dead hooking at your track (like most are under these conditions) a tire won't do squat. If you are hooking at the desired launch rpm, a drag radial will not do a thing except cost you money...I have tons of experience drag racing both autos and manuals. Before you waste your money, try your local track a few times first...at mine, it would be a complete waste of money and time on a car like this.

The few times I run at the drag strip it's at Memphis Raceway on test and tune nights. They do almost no prep and many junker cars run leaking stuff all over the track...sometimes dangerous traction problems occur.

I really appreciate the expertise some of our fellow Camaro owners have with the technical aspects of drag racing. I have been in that sport for many years and have experience, but this is probably the most powerful car bone stock I've ever had. Just trying to pick ya'll's brains. Thanks. My car has near 1000 miles on it and I may get to T&T this week Thursday night and give it a bone stock test run.

[oldman]

Originally Posted by SS 1LE

You are aware that car is from from stock right? I mentioned STOCK car...of course with mods you are going to need a tire...

Let us say that a converter, tune and test pipe are not out of the ordinary. You mentioned once and only once a stock car. By his sig I have no idea what mods he had at the time, but it ain't like we are talking N20 or something.

Face it a 1.56 on DR is an excellent time for a minor mod car. No qualifications needed. While you are now stuck on bone stock perfect track and el perfecto driver. Great I would say the vast majority of stock or near stock cars on the vast majority of tracks, under the vast majority of conditions, with the vast majority of drivers will yield better, quicker and more consistent and most satisficing results with a properly sized DR. Nuff said that is why we have a drag strip eh?


Again, are you reading what I write? I'm begining to think your username fits you well.

Originally Posted by SS 1LE

I said NUMERICALLY lower gears. A 4:11 will be easier to break loose than a 2:73...of course.

Yep, I missed the word, I stand corrected.

As pointed out the total ratio of 1st gear (4.56) plus rear diff on an A8 is low and so it is EASIER to break traction, despite your claim as you completely left out the gear in the trans that was pertinent to the discussion of launch and gear ratio. I sure that was an oversight. Just setting the record straight. The oveall launching gear ratio on an A8 at launch is very steep or high, meaning it is easy to blow the tires away on less than optimal conditions.