[driven2exceSS]

Originally Posted by FollowMyLine

Hey! I'm glad you asked! As of yesterday my 2022 allocation went status code 2000, which means it was accepted by GM.

I have officially ordered a 2022 2SS 1LE in Wild Cherry Tintcoat with the M6. I kept it simple and optioned the red seat belts, PDR, aluminum sport pedals and illuminated footwell lighting. That’s it.

Stock photos but as soon as I get it, I’ll post some more in another thread somewhere:

Love it! Glad to hear the good news!

[Mountain]

Track = Gingerman
Elapsed Time = 1:39.776
Year / Model / Trim = 2017 SS 1LE
Date = 7/17/2021
Tires = Falken RT660 305/315
Mods = Ferodo DS1.11 pads, Ferodo Super Fluid, Hotchkis rear sway bar (softest setting)

*Start/Finish line was not being set early in the day. Further verification of time: https://timetrials.scca.com/events/1...-1626527525-19

After trying out the Falken RT660 at the SCCA TT Nats, during one of the practice sessions, and really liking the way the tire acts on this car, I decided to grab a pair of 305/30R19's and 19x10.5 M716 wheels to compliment the rear 315/30R19's on 19x11 M716 wheels. I considered running the 275/30R19's I have, but after the one practice session I ran them, I see them wearing out really fast and being a lot more susceptible to over-heating. With 305's - larger heat sink. Plus I wanted to see what more grip up front would do.

I had tried this 305/315 setup in an autocross setting, nothing else different from the times I ran 275/315, and it's pretty notable how much more confident the front of the car becomes. In an autocross setting, the car seemed basically dead-neutral.

For the Gingerman TT, I also swapped over to the Hotchkis rear sway bar from the FE3 coupe bar I've been running. The reason I did this is because, at NCM, I noted a bit of understeer in the tight, technical sections of the track. It wasn't enough to kill lap times, but enough to force you to be a lot more careful about what you do with the car, how you setup corners. The Hotchkis rear bar, in the softest setting, provides a bar that has the same rate as the OEM FE4 bar, but allows for non-bonded bushing, freeing up the rear suspension movement. That is the reason why I decided to try the bar.

At the SCCA TT event, before I threw on the RT660's, I ran the OE SC3 setup. The reason being as I wanted to see how the car felt, what the car was doing, compared to how it acted prior, with the OE bars I've tried. If you page to the Group 1, Session 1 practice sheet, you'll see that my times aren't representative of "a fast lap" for the setup, comparing to my past times - my focus was to put down "a good time" and to note what the car was doing over trying for my fastest lap. In particular, the car would have some very mild push at corner exit of T11 of Gingerman. I also wanted to see how the car took T10b. From what I could tell, the Hotchkis bar, in the softest setting, seemed to keep the balance I remember from past events (including past Gingerman events); however, the rear of the car had a slightly different feel - it definitely felt a bit less "tangled". To be clear: the car was cornering just as it was with the OE FE4 bar, the roll stiffness balanced did not seem to have changed, but the rear of the car did seem to be able to move freer.

I am really eager to run at another tight, technical track to really see if the non-bonded bushings show a bit more.

On the 305/315 setup, as it moves closer to a square setup, I did notice the car become a bit more loose (balance more a bit more toward oversteer). I think there is a low-1:39 or high-1:38 there, from looking at my data. I wasn't able to improve my time during competition, as I kinda lost my head on my laps through the weekend, overly focusing on a few areas for improvements, and not minding other areas where I was a bit off. I was having issues with my PDR, at first, getting the Start/Finish line to set and then my laptop was all jacked up, so I couldn't analyze my data - once I got home and fixed my laptop, it was very evident I wasn't doing the T7-8-9 sequence right during competition, for some reason, and my line out of T2 evolved a bit too tight, which killed some speed out of T2.

If you guys haven't yet done the SCCA Time Trial events, I highly, highly recommend them!

On a scale of 1-10, with 5 being "neutral", 1 being "complete oversteer" and 10 being "complete understeer", I would rate:
-OE setup = 6
-FE3 rear bar = 6.5
-RT660 305/315 setup w/FE3 bar = 5
-RT660 305/315 w/Hotchkis bar = 4 or 4.5.

Update: I’m very confident that the Hotchkis rear bar is likely the ticket to curing my concern, as I’ve done some street driving on the shitty Metro-Detroit roads and the ride quality out of the rear of the car is noticeably better than before. A lot less shimmy from the rear over bumps. Much smoother.

[rotis]

Track = Ridge Motorsports Park
Elapsed Time = 1:46.61 (PDR), 1:46.629 (Official event timing)
Year / Model / Trim = 2019 ZL1 1LE
Date = 7/25/2021
Tires = Goodyear Supercar 3 325/30-19
Mods = MCS 2WNR, 19x12 square Apex SM10, DOT4 fluid, DS2500 pads, front bar

[khcoaching]

Originally Posted by rotis

Track = Ridge Motorsports Park
Elapsed Time = 1:46.61
Year / Model / Trim = 2019 ZL1 1LE
Date = 7/25/2021
Tires = Goodyear Supercar 3 325/30-19
Mods = MCS 2WNR, 19x12 square Apex SM10, DOT4 fluid, DS2500 pads

Nice lap!!!

[FollowMyLine]

Originally Posted by Mountain

Track = Gingerman
Elapsed Time = 1:39.776
Year / Model / Trim = 2017 SS 1LE
Date = 7/17/2021
Tires = Falken RT660 305/315
Mods = Ferodo DS1.11 pads, Ferodo Super Fluid, Hotchkis rear sway bar (softest setting)

*Start/Finish line was not being set early in the day. Further verification of time: https://timetrials.scca.com/events/1...-1626527525-19

After trying out the Falken RT660 at the SCCA TT Nats, during one of the practice sessions, and really liking the way the tire acts on this car, I decided to grab a pair of 305/30R19's and 19x10.5 M716 wheels to compliment the rear 315/30R19's on 19x11 M716 wheels. I considered running the 275/30R19's I have, but after the one practice session I ran them, I see them wearing out really fast and being a lot more susceptible to over-heating. With 305's - larger heat sink. Plus I wanted to see what more grip up front would do.

I had tried this 305/315 setup in an autocross setting, nothing else different from the times I ran 275/315, and it's pretty notable how much more confident the front of the car becomes. In an autocross setting, the car seemed basically dead-neutral.

For the Gingerman TT, I also swapped over to the Hotchkis rear sway bar from the FE3 coupe bar I've been running. The reason I did this is because, at NCM, I noted a bit of understeer in the tight, technical sections of the track. It wasn't enough to kill lap times, but enough to force you to be a lot more careful about what you do with the car, how you setup corners. The Hotchkis rear bar, in the softest setting, provides a bar that has the same rate as the OEM FE4 bar, but allows for non-bonded bushing, freeing up the rear suspension movement. That is the reason why I decided to try the bar.

At the SCCA TT event, before I threw on the RT660's, I ran the OE SC3 setup. The reason being as I wanted to see how the car felt, what the car was doing, compared to how it acted prior, with the OE bars I've tried. If you page to the Group 1, Session 1 practice sheet, you'll see that my times aren't representative of "a fast lap" for the setup, comparing to my past times - my focus was to put down "a good time" and to note what the car was doing over trying for my fastest lap. In particular, the car would have some very mild push at corner exit of T11 of Gingerman. I also wanted to see how the car took T10b. From what I could tell, the Hotchkis bar, in the softest setting, seemed to keep the balance I remember from past events (including past Gingerman events); however, the rear of the car had a slightly different feel - it definitely felt a bit less "tangled". To be clear: the car was cornering just as it was with the OE FE4 bar, the roll stiffness balanced did not seem to have changed, but the rear of the car did seem to be able to move freer.

I am really eager to run at another tight, technical track to really see if the non-bonded bushings show a bit more.

On the 305/315 setup, as it moves closer to a square setup, I did notice the car become a bit more loose (balance more a bit more toward oversteer). I think there is a low-1:39 or high-1:38 there, from looking at my data. I wasn't able to improve my time during competition, as I kinda lost my head on my laps through the weekend, overly focusing on a few areas for improvements, and not minding other areas where I was a bit off. I was having issues with my PDR, at first, getting the Start/Finish line to set and then my laptop was all jacked up, so I couldn't analyze my data - once I got home and fixed my laptop, it was very evident I wasn't doing the T7-8-9 sequence right during competition, for some reason, and my line out of T2 evolved a bit too tight, which killed some speed out of T2.

If you guys haven't yet done the SCCA Time Trial events, I highly, highly recommend them!

On a scale of 1-10, with 5 being "neutral", 1 being "complete oversteer" and 10 being "complete understeer", I would rate:
-OE setup = 6
-FE3 rear bar = 6.5
-RT660 305/315 setup w/FE3 bar = 5
-RT660 305/315 w/Hotchkis bar = 4 or 4.5.

Update: I’m very confident that the Hotchkis rear bar is likely the ticket to curing my concern, as I’ve done some street driving on the shitty Metro-Detroit roads and the ride quality out of the rear of the car is noticeably better than before. A lot less shimmy from the rear over bumps. Much smoother.

As always, thank you for the detail on the post and the experimentation with the rear sway bar, it looks like you have found a winning combo!

Times have been updated!

[Krispy]

Originally Posted by GTASS1LE

Thanks! Ya, I'm not quite there yet...and the Cup2's were losing grip after 5 or 6 laps so didn't want to get too close to the limit in turns 4 and 8. I had a couple of laps that were spoiled at 10 which would have been in the 1:32's...next time

Hopefully this video will help in your quest for 32's, keep at it!

Track= Mosport (Canadian Tire Motorsport Park - CTMP)
Elapsed Time = 1:31.42
Year / Model / Trim = 2017 Camaro SS 1LE
Date = 7/26/2021
Tires = OEM SC3
Mods = Camber plates + alignment + StopTech 660 brake fluid

[FollowMyLine]

Updated

[TrackClub]

Originally Posted by Krispy

Hopefully this video will help in your quest for 32's, keep at it!

Track= Mosport (Canadian Tire Motorsport Park - CTMP)
Elapsed Time = 1:31.42
Year / Model / Trim = 2017 Camaro SS 1LE
Date = 7/26/2021
Tires = OEM SC3
Mods = Camber plates + alignment + StopTech 660 brake fluid

One word Chris: TREMENDOUS!!!

[Mountain]

Originally Posted by FollowMyLine

As always, thank you for the detail on the post and the experimentation with the rear sway bar, it looks like you have found a winning combo!

Times have been updated!

You’re welcome.

Question: Why delete my old time from the list? Wouldn't that be of some value to see same driver, different setup improvements/comparisons? Not just a constantly moving “leader board”…

[NEZL1]

Track= Thompson Motorsports Park
Elapsed Time = 1:19.04
Year / Model / Trim = 2018 Camaro ZL1 1LE
Date = 7/24/2021
Tires = OEM SC3r Rear / Well worn RE71Rs Front
Mods = Heartbeat blower / 1 7/8 headers / Hawk DTC 70/60 Pads

[eimarshall]

Track = Ridge Motorsports Park
Elapsed Time = 1:49.88
Year / Model / Trim = 2018 Camaro SS 1LE
Date = 7/25/21
Tires = GYSC3
Mods = Alignment, RBF600, BMR cradle lockout.

Video:
https://youtu.be/5WtYIVNIEOs

Official timing: https://timetrials.scca.com/events/1...ssions/overall

[khcoaching]

Originally Posted by eimarshall

Track = Ridge Motorsports Park
Elapsed Time = 1:49.88
Year / Model / Trim = 2018 Camaro SS 1LE
Date = 7/25/21
Tires = GYSC3
Mods = Alignment, RBF600, BMR cradle lockout.

Video:
https://youtu.be/5WtYIVNIEOs

Official timing: https://timetrials.scca.com/events/1...ssions/overall

Nice!

[eimarshall]

Originally Posted by khcoaching

Nice!

Thanks Ken! I really tried to trail the brakes into 2, 8a and 11 and it really paid off! I still left some on the table into 12 and through 6. But I’ll take the sub 1:50 to close out my year!

[khcoaching]

Originally Posted by eimarshall

Thanks Ken! I really tried to trail the brakes into 2, 8a and 11 and it really paid off! I still left some on the table into 12 and through 6. But I’ll take the sub 1:50 to close out my year!

So glad we got to do a few laps and hopefully (HA! You did!) see why those lines make more sense as you go faster. Super impressive!

I saw you were on SC3Rs? How did they work? Did that noise go away?

Ken