SS 1LE or ZL1 for a street car - Page 2

DaveC113 · 11-07-2018, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by F1FTY

Mostly, it's just trying to manage the clutch around the dead spot from a stop. Stupid software.

No doubt. I'm still not sure exactly what causes that bog, but it seems to be avoidable depending on technique. Either faster clutch engagement or easier on the gas pedal...

Does anyone know if the aftermarket throttle controllers get rid of this issue?

Sorry for the OT!

Airfuel · 11-07-2018, 10:19 AM

Horsepower is the most addicting drug there is.

You will keep chasing more and more.
I have seen people go broke chasing numbers.
Sometimes you just have to say enough is enough but that is hard to do if you are young and full of Testosterone!

Outahand · 11-07-2018, 10:20 AM

ZL1

Same suspension.

My Buddy was suggesting get an SS then supercharge it if needed. But then it would overheat and overpower the trans, rear end, ect....

Plus I wanted the A10 to daily drive. Love my ZL1. Staying stock and have not had a not enough power issue. Time for smog? no problem....

F1FTY · 11-07-2018, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DaveC113

No doubt. I'm still not sure exactly what causes that bog, but it seems to be avoidable depending on technique. Either faster clutch engagement or easier on the gas pedal...

Does anyone know if the aftermarket throttle controllers get rid of this issue?

Sorry for the OT!

I've found that a heavier right foot and some sacrificing of the clutch slip works the best in most situations. On hills, I probably burn the clutch a little too much (honestly, not comfortable with using the clutch like I do in this car from a stop regardless) but the car doesn't bog or stall that way. Reversing up my driveway hill with a light foot results in stalling the car once I try to get over the curb.

It's honestly much more of a chore to drive the ZL1 than the SS ever was. In the SS, I could just drive it like every other manual car i've ever had. The ZL1 I'm breaking my normal routine and abusing the clutch more than I'm used to just to make sure it doesn't bog or stall out. One of the only things I will not miss about the car.

torqueaddict · 11-07-2018, 10:49 AM

Even the SS can't be pushed to its full potential on the street for the most part. But that depends on location of course. Those living out where long open stretches of road are the normal commute can definitely push it. And anyone who owns an SS is guilty when an opportunity like that comes along. I don't condone street racing and don't participate (I did when I was younger and much less responsible), but let's be honest, most on here didn't by the SS to drive like a little old lady.

I haven't driven a Zl1, but I've driven a car with boost, and it's a different beast altogether in terms of power delivery. That burst of extra power in the rev range is addicting. If I had the funds, I'd definitely go the ZL1 route. How it performs on the street is up to you.

Bad Anvil Garage · 11-07-2018, 11:10 AM

ZL1

Boost Creep · 11-07-2018, 11:52 AM

ZL1

More power.
They hold their value better.

MATTY-1LE · 11-07-2018, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveC113

No offense, but people who feel this way seem to always feel this way after X months of having the new car or power upgrade.

SS is lots of power for the street imo. For those who always need more I'd seriously consider a dedicated track car to put that money and effort into.

The keyword to note on my comment was "still" feel like its slow. As in, i felt this way the moment i got it and still do today

cbr1100xx · 11-07-2018, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MATTY-1LE

The keyword to note on my comment was "still" feel like its slow. As in, i felt this way the moment i got it and still do today

I'm not sure why you pulled the trigger on it then unless you were planning to add boost.

arpad_m · 11-07-2018, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MATTY-1LE

The keyword to note on my comment was "still" feel like its slow. As in, i felt this way the moment i got it and still do today

Adding a supercharger will help. Of course, you'll still need to say when enough is enough.

VinnAY · 11-07-2018, 02:26 PM

I pretty much demand 1LE handling on the street for my DD experience but there's way more power than I can really use or put down to think that a ZL1 would have a viable spot in my plans.

MatthewAMEL · 11-07-2018, 02:29 PM

ZL1 A10 with no reservations for a DD/Street/Stop-light-to stoplight car.

1LE or ZL1 1LE if you actually care about driving.

DaveC113 · 11-07-2018, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MATTY-1LE

The keyword to note on my comment was "still" feel like its slow. As in, i felt this way the moment i got it and still do today

protovack · 11-07-2018, 07:37 PM

Honestly, the SS 1LE will be more than enough. Hell, even the ltg and lgx 1LEs post incredible track numbers. The only way id consider a ZL1 is if i had regular access to a giant road course. And even then, the SS 1LE is going to tear the shit out of it. There is something exclusive about having a naturally aspirated car that can dominate like the 1LE. And the ZL1 is heavier. I dont mean to beat on the ZL1 its an incredible car. But for your intended use i dont see how you would even come close to enjoying it.

11-07-2018, 10:19 AM	#16
Airfuel Drives: '19 2SS M6. Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: CT Posts: 340	Horsepower is the most addicting drug there is. You will keep chasing more and more. I have seen people go broke chasing numbers. Sometimes you just have to say enough is enough but that is hard to do if you are young and full of Testosterone! __________________ 2019 2SS, Shadow gray, 6mt, NPP, Magneride, Bose.

11-07-2018, 10:20 AM	#17
Outahand Drives: 2018 ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: San Jose, Ca Posts: 135	ZL1 Same suspension. My Buddy was suggesting get an SS then supercharge it if needed. But then it would overheat and overpower the trans, rear end, ect.... Plus I wanted the A10 to daily drive. Love my ZL1. Staying stock and have not had a not enough power issue. Time for smog? no problem.... __________________ Mark E. 2018 ZL1 NGM A10 87 Grand National. Modified Hot Rod for sale SOLD 87 Grand National. Stock 65 Olds Vista Cruiser wagon Grand National motor/tran 66 Bronco Rockbuggy 2006 Dodge 2500 4x4 Cummins 6 speed

11-07-2018, 11:52 AM	#21
Boost Creep Drives: '18 1SS 1LE Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Pennsyltucky Posts: 2,571	ZL1 More power. They hold their value better. __________________ '18 1SS *1LE* Black, PDR

11-07-2018, 02:29 PM	#26
MatthewAMEL Drives: 2023 CT5 Blackwing Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Orlando Posts: 1,619	ZL1 A10 with no reservations for a DD/Street/Stop-light-to stoplight car. 1LE or ZL1 1LE if you actually care about driving. __________________ 2017 HBM SS 1LE Sold 2023 Wave Metallic CT5-V Blackwing M6

11-07-2018, 10:49 AM	#19
torqueaddict Drives: Tesla M3 LR-AWD [Former 1SS owner] Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Miami Posts: 950	Even the SS can't be pushed to its full potential on the street for the most part. But that depends on location of course. Those living out where long open stretches of road are the normal commute can definitely push it. And anyone who owns an SS is guilty when an opportunity like that comes along. I don't condone street racing and don't participate (I did when I was younger and much less responsible), but let's be honest, most on here didn't by the SS to drive like a little old lady. I haven't driven a Zl1, but I've driven a car with boost, and it's a different beast altogether in terms of power delivery. That burst of extra power in the rev range is addicting. If I had the funds, I'd definitely go the ZL1 route. How it performs on the street is up to you.

11-07-2018, 11:10 AM	#20
Bad Anvil Garage Drives: 2000 GMPPSV SS & 2017 ILE SS Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bartlett, IL Posts: 547	ZL1

11-07-2018, 02:26 PM	#25
VinnAY Account Suspended Drives: 18 1SS/1LE Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Missouri Posts: 939	I pretty much demand 1LE handling on the street for my DD experience but there's way more power than I can really use or put down to think that a ZL1 would have a viable spot in my plans.

11-07-2018, 07:37 PM	#28
protovack Drives: 2019 2LT 2.0T M6 Riverside Blue Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: WA Posts: 847	Honestly, the SS 1LE will be more than enough. Hell, even the ltg and lgx 1LEs post incredible track numbers. The only way id consider a ZL1 is if i had regular access to a giant road course. And even then, the SS 1LE is going to tear the shit out of it. There is something exclusive about having a naturally aspirated car that can dominate like the 1LE. And the ZL1 is heavier. I dont mean to beat on the ZL1 its an incredible car. But for your intended use i dont see how you would even come close to enjoying it.

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