Hellcat Redeye makes 797 hp. Will Chevy have a reply?

big dave · 06-28-2018, 05:31 PM

Dodge obviously has no problem stepping on their own toes, with the new Hellcat Redeye making just 11 less hp than the demon. What, if at all, will/can Chevy do in reply with the ZL1? Will they now consider putting the ZR1 engine in to make things a little more competitive? We all know Ford has a sledgehammer under it's sleeves. I'm sure that will be somewhere in the mid 700 hp range. Is it too much to ask that the General step up to the plate to give us Bowtie fans something to root for?

BlaqWhole · 06-28-2018, 05:44 PM

The ZL1 doesn't need a thing. It took this long for the competition to match it. And even now we can't say for sure that these others will actually beat it. The GT500 isn't coming out until 2019 and probably not until 2020...I heard it got pushed back another year but I'm not sure. The Redeye is out for 2019 but will it beat the ZL1's tested 11.4 on whatever tires they decide to throw on it? By the time we see any of this we'll be almost at the 7th Gen. Which means GM would have to scramble unless they've had something up their sleeves all along. And then would that bump the price up? So to me, the ZL1 has been the king and should remain the same. GM will raise the bar again for the 7th Gen and everyone will be playing catch up yet again and probably won't actually catch up until we're almost at the 8th Gen and so on...

kttxz06 · 06-28-2018, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by big dave

Dodge obviously has no problem stepping on their own toes, with the new Hellcat Redeye making just 11 less hp than the demon. What, if at all, will/can Chevy do in reply with the ZL1? Will they now consider putting the ZR1 engine in to make things a little more competitive? We all know Ford has a sledgehammer under it's sleeves. I'm sure that will be somewhere in the mid 700 hp range. Is it too much to ask that the General step up to the plate to give us Bowtie fans something to root for?

We do. It's called the ZR1.

Dethsupp0rt · 06-28-2018, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

The Redeye is out for 2019 but will it beat the ZL1's tested 11.4 on whatever tires they decide to throw on it?

They're claiming 11.1 @ 131. Sounds a little optimistic, as I doubt it will hook very well. 10.8 at the same trap for the widebody with some proper rear tires.

URBAN LEGEND · 06-28-2018, 07:17 PM

Power to weight. Let’s start there.

MR 45TH · 06-28-2018, 07:21 PM

I doubt it! I’d imagine GM is pretty confident with their lineup

lt4camaro · 06-28-2018, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dethsupp0rt

They're claiming 11.1 @ 131. Sounds a little optimistic, as I doubt it will hook very well. 10.8 at the same trap for the widebody with some proper rear tires.

Yeah, the ZL1 will not keep up with a wide body hellcat redeye 797 horse with a 305 35 20 tire from the factory and there great 8 speed ZF sourced auto trans only. Hate saying this as I would never own a hellcat over a Camaro. This is 1/4 mile and straight line runs only. The mopar is too heavy to do any road course stuff.

DangerZL1 · 06-28-2018, 08:01 PM

They’re even offfering a 3 series rear gear option. The Readeye will be showing it’s brown eye to the ZL1. It will easily be over $80k. It’s just a little to big of a platform at 8” longer than a ZL1 which makes it a much tighter fit for my garage.

96MrBass · 06-28-2018, 08:06 PM

Still don't understand why GM doesn't have the optional drag package available for the ZL1 or the SS.

Macaro · 06-28-2018, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by big dave

Dodge obviously has no problem stepping on their own toes, with the new Hellcat Redeye making just 11 less hp than the demon.

The Demon was a limited production run. The Redeye doesn't compete with the Demon (in terms of sales) because all the Demons have already been sold.

Personally I think it's pretty cool, trickle down effect...

lt4camaro · 06-28-2018, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DangerZL1

They’re even offfering a 3 series rear gear option. The Readeye will be showing it’s brown eye to the ZL1. It will easily be over $80k. It’s just a little to big of a platform at 8” longer than a ZL1 which makes it a much tighter fit for my garage.

Demon list price was 86k, I would think the redeye would be under 80k.

DangerZL1 · 06-28-2018, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by lt4camaro

Demon list price was 86k, I would think the redeye would be under 80k.

Good point. I’d definitely want the wide body, so that’s $7k. I wasn’t sure what they listed for. Hopefully without being limited production the gouging won’t be as bad. I was about ready to order a 19 ZL1, but this is giving it competition.

Blackdevil77 · 06-28-2018, 08:48 PM

The cheapest redeye was said to be around 70k. With that being said.... C'MON GM!!!! As much as many don't like to admit it, GM is always playing catch up, not the other way around. The 5th gen ZL1 was the slowest between the Hellcat and the 2013/2014 GT500. Then GM comes out with the 6th gen that MATCHES their acceleration performance, now Dodge has a nearly 800 hp Challenger coming out and Ford is coming out with a Shelby that will be north of 700 hp. Both of which will out-accelerate the ZL1. Where the ZL1 will probably come out on top is handling (obviously against the Dodge) but we still don't know what's in store for the 2019/2020 GT500. It's handling may very well be comparable to the ZL1.

GM, you need to put an LT5 in the ZL1 to level the playing field. Will you? Probably not....

brap999 · 06-28-2018, 09:31 PM

well that’s it. The V8 is clearly dead. Bring out the 4/6 cylinder hybrid motors.

06-28-2018, 05:31 PM	#1
big dave Drives: 2017 ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,052	Hellcat Redeye makes 797 hp. Will Chevy have a reply? Dodge obviously has no problem stepping on their own toes, with the new Hellcat Redeye making just 11 less hp than the demon. What, if at all, will/can Chevy do in reply with the ZL1? Will they now consider putting the ZR1 engine in to make things a little more competitive? We all know Ford has a sledgehammer under it's sleeves. I'm sure that will be somewhere in the mid 700 hp range. Is it too much to ask that the General step up to the plate to give us Bowtie fans something to root for? __________________ '17 ZL1 10.99@129 stock. 4225# raceweight. Best 60'- 1.66 on factory tires. 10.48@132 E50, intake and tune. 4270 lbs https://youtu.be/EyHtdH9XOkY https://youtu.be/Lcu41obbTf8 '13 ZL1 BRM A6. 11.591 @ 119.2 factory stock with a 1.68 60'! Best stock mph 121.8. 11.29 @ 123 RotoFab, drag radials and skinnies. 4360# raceweight. http://youtu.be/yggIA3C_kkA 2014... back to stock http://youtu.be/spQLaTWbThs 2013... stock & RotoFab

06-28-2018, 07:17 PM	#5
URBAN LEGEND Drives: 20 X3M CP & 19 ZL1 1LE A10 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Brenham, TX Posts: 3,517	Power to weight. Let’s start there. __________________ 🔺22 RS E TRON GT 🔺21 Model S Plaid

06-28-2018, 07:21 PM	#6
MR 45TH Drives: 2018 ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Huntingtown, MD Posts: 1,138	I doubt it! I’d imagine GM is pretty confident with their lineup __________________ 2018 ZL1…Many mods to come

06-28-2018, 08:06 PM	#9
96MrBass Drives: GM Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Marydel, DE Posts: 1,321	Still don't understand why GM doesn't have the optional drag package available for the ZL1 or the SS. __________________ Roto- Fab Cai, SLP 1 3/4" headers, 3"X pipe, LM2 cat back, Comp Cam & AI Heads, SLP UP, RPM Tuned, GPI Intake, Vmax TB, ADM Air Scoop, 3.91 Gears, Gforce driveshaft, Braille 21#, Elite Catch Can, Pfadt Tie Rods, Diff Bushings and Trailing arms, Eibach spings & sways, BMR cradle bushings, Nt555r's.

06-28-2018, 09:31 PM	#14
brap999 Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Springfield, VA Posts: 115	well that’s it. The V8 is clearly dead. Bring out the 4/6 cylinder hybrid motors. __________________ 2018 Chevy Camaro ZL1-1LE 2015 Silverado 2500HD 1999 Jeep Cherokee Sport 1998 Dodge Viper GTS 1972 Pontiac GTO 1963 Chevy C10 short bed, T5, 350, lowered

06-28-2018, 05:44 PM	#2
BlaqWhole Account Suspended Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 A10 Join Date: May 2012 Location: NJ Posts: 7,692	The ZL1 doesn't need a thing. It took this long for the competition to match it. And even now we can't say for sure that these others will actually beat it. The GT500 isn't coming out until 2019 and probably not until 2020...I heard it got pushed back another year but I'm not sure. The Redeye is out for 2019 but will it beat the ZL1's tested 11.4 on whatever tires they decide to throw on it? By the time we see any of this we'll be almost at the 7th Gen. Which means GM would have to scramble unless they've had something up their sleeves all along. And then would that bump the price up? So to me, the ZL1 has been the king and should remain the same. GM will raise the bar again for the 7th Gen and everyone will be playing catch up yet again and probably won't actually catch up until we're almost at the 8th Gen and so on...

06-28-2018, 08:01 PM	#8
DangerZL1 Drives: 2023 Black ZL1 Auto Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: FEMA Region 4 Posts: 2,935	They’re even offfering a 3 series rear gear option. The Readeye will be showing it’s brown eye to the ZL1. It will easily be over $80k. It’s just a little to big of a platform at 8” longer than a ZL1 which makes it a much tighter fit for my garage.

06-28-2018, 08:48 PM	#13
Blackdevil77 Drives: 2008 Pontiac G8 GT, Shelby GT500 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 1,376	The cheapest redeye was said to be around 70k. With that being said.... C'MON GM!!!! As much as many don't like to admit it, GM is always playing catch up, not the other way around. The 5th gen ZL1 was the slowest between the Hellcat and the 2013/2014 GT500. Then GM comes out with the 6th gen that MATCHES their acceleration performance, now Dodge has a nearly 800 hp Challenger coming out and Ford is coming out with a Shelby that will be north of 700 hp. Both of which will out-accelerate the ZL1. Where the ZL1 will probably come out on top is handling (obviously against the Dodge) but we still don't know what's in store for the 2019/2020 GT500. It's handling may very well be comparable to the ZL1. GM, you need to put an LT5 in the ZL1 to level the playing field. Will you? Probably not....

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