[HumanWiki]

Originally Posted by mkorgan

FWIW, It appears the PDR does not require NAV based on the GMCONNECT ordering process I went through with my dealer last week. We did it both with and without NAV and the PDR was enabled for selection either way.

If it's like Corvette build. The Nav is integrated in to the PDR option and both audio systems are listed as 0.00. You tick the PDR, it ticks the other Audio at 0.00.

But, it could still be two separate options as noted. That would be very interesting indeed if PDR didn't include Nav by default.

Don't suppose they had option prices listed?

[mkorgan]

Originally Posted by HumanWiki

If it's like Corvette build. The Nav is integrated in to the PDR option and both audio systems are listed as 0.00. You tick the PDR, it ticks the other Audio at 0.00.

But, it could still be two separate options as noted. That would be very interesting indeed if PDR didn't include Nav by default.

Don't suppose they had option prices listed?

(I06) Radio With Infotainment and Connectivity and Navigation
(UQT) Performance data and Video Recorder

No price but clearly independent of each other in the build process on GM GlobalConnect.

[HumanWiki]

Originally Posted by mkorgan

(I06) Radio With Infotainment and Connectivity and Navigation
(UQT) Performance data and Video Recorder

No price but clearly independent of each other in the build process on GM GlobalConnect.

Right, I see the RPO codes for them. I guess my question is. If you have PDR, but don't opt for Nav... You still need all the GPS hardware for the car, because that's how PDR builds the track map you see in the upper left in the videos.

On the Corvettes, when you select PDR it auto adds in the Nav system as part of it (it changes the radio button from Audio System to Audio System) and the only way you see the difference in them is if you click the link and read the pop-up bubble.

It would just seem silly to me, to allow a GPS based PDR system, but it have 0 Navigation function. At that point, the only thing you're not getting is the built-in maps and that's just software blocks stored in on-board memory.

Which is why I was asking that.. Since we can't see all the specifics or prices yet, so much of this is guess work and that's kinda bad on GM's part. They really need to get better with this whole price and data release thing.

[mkorgan]

Originally Posted by HumanWiki

Right, I see the RPO codes for them. I guess my question is. If you have PDR, but don't opt for Nav... You still need all the GPS hardware for the car, because that's how PDR builds the track map you see in the upper left in the videos.

On the Corvettes, when you select PDR it auto adds in the Nav system as part of it (it changes the radio button from Audio System to Audio System) and the only way you see the difference in them is if you click the link and read the pop-up bubble.

It would just seem silly to me, to allow a GPS based PDR system, but it have 0 Navigation function. At that point, the only thing you're not getting is the built-in maps and that's just software blocks stored in on-board memory.

Which is why I was asking that.. Since we can't see all the specifics or prices yet, so much of this is guess work and that's kinda bad on GM's part. They really need to get better with this whole price and data release thing.

Agreed. My buddies Vette was one option NAV w/ PDR so I absolutely get it that is why we did it both ways and it worked with or without NAV. Other items would not work however like ECF hood w/ center stripe (one or the other but not both) so the system seems to be check dependencies on some things at least. When we went to submit the order (knowing it would not go through but just wanted to see what would happen) it came back with a few things we had to clean up (selecting A10 or interior CF gave errors) but the PDR / NAV requirement was not one. May change on Sept 8th though. Who knows??

[HumanWiki]

Originally Posted by mkorgan

Agreed. My buddies Vette was one option NAV w/ PDR so I absolutely get it that is why we did it both ways and it worked with or without NAV. Other items would not work however like ECF hood w/ center stripe (one or the other but not both) so the system seems to be check dependencies on some things at least. When we went to submit the order (knowing it would not go through but just wanted to see what would happen) it came back with a few things we had to clean up (selecting A10 give or interior CF gave errors) but the PDR / NAV requirement was not one. May change on Sept 8th though. Who knows??

Hmmmm.....

Sometimes trying to figure out what is or isn't required or paired make me

LOL.

Guess we'll see. I'm stuck on A10 anyways, so by the time I can even order, I'll know how that PDR thing pairs and costs.

[Obsessed 17]

Wider front fenders, better mag ride than 2ss, different settings (e.g., competition mode, etc).

[ELS1]

Originally Posted by Obsessed 17

Wider front fenders, better mag ride than 2ss, different settings (e.g., competition mode, etc).

Better MRC? I haven't heard anything about it being different...maybe I missed something?

[Obsessed 17]

Originally Posted by ELS1

Better MRC? I haven't heard anything about it being different...maybe I missed something?

http://media.chevrolet.com/media/us/...08-camaro.html

This is the best i could find. Maybe i misintrepreted fe4 suspension for a better mag ride system. However, i know the atsv got a next gen mag ride system and would think the zl1 would get that too. If im wrong some please correct me.

[Tr6]

Originally Posted by Obsessed 17

http://media.chevrolet.com/media/us/...08-camaro.html

This is the best i could find. Maybe i misintrepreted fe4 suspension for a better mag ride system. However, i know the atsv got a next gen mag ride system and would think the zl1 would get that too. If im wrong some please correct me.

6th gen has the latest gen MRC on it. They haven't come out with a new yet. The software however does offer more settings within modes which could maybe considered an update but I will add that once we get it confirmed via pictures or videos. None have been released or shown yet. Looking for concrete evidence of stuff before I add it. Nothing personal!

[BradfordCamaro]

Originally Posted by copper3000

Let's see the picture!

Have to wait on that. My boy knocked over my computer and now I get the long steady beep with black screen.....have to get that fixed.
The pic I have is from the factory tour, the red one that was under the tent.

[Thor142]

I did a little searching but I'm still not clear, what is the difference between the FE3 and FE4 suspension. Can anyone explain this?

[Obsessed 17]

Here is a reference to atsv mag ride gen.

http://media.cadillac.com/media/us/e...atsv/2016.html

[BradfordCamaro]

Originally Posted by Tr6

Please do share because I did not see a crimp on ANY of the ZL1's that were in Michigan during the 50th event (They were CTF so who knows). Yep, I did crawl under it and check it. It is possible though, the reason behind the crimps is for convertible xbraces to fit and to eliminate any drone (straight from Camaro team).

Wow... Yes...it took me a month to get my computer fixed...
To convenient to have tablets everywhere in the house....

here is the pic

[copper3000]

Wow, looks almost pinched off!