[newmoon]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

Lot more times on the gen 6 Facebook page. Including 11.7 and 11.8 second stock runs. None of the times on the new GT on a fast list forum. Just saying if you count GT runs not on a list then other times are fair game for the SS as well.

What I am saying is since we are counting everything on the Gen 6th side, then you have to count everything on the 18-19 GT side right? So presently we have 3-4 months (winter) of GT data compared to 2.75 yrs of Camaro data. All owner claimed stock times are accepted, your rules not mine.

Any publication reviewed times or speed shop times are not allowed because they obviously cheated. (Unless the times only make the GT look slow)

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by newmoon

I see 4 sub 12 sec passes on the 6th Gen fast list posted above in 2.5 years of trying. The best pass ever published in a review is 12:20s. But the standard for the GT is dozens of 11:80s each weekend. Laughable at best. Let's see where the 18 and 19s fast list for the GT is in the same 2.5 year time frame since we now 100% trust private owner claimed stock run times.

It is laughable. It’s the standard set by their own community after the Evan run and why the new GT A10 owner sited in post #395 went to Atco expecting 11.8 but left with 12.5. That was the point.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by newmoon

What I am saying is since we are counting everything on the Gen 6th side, then you have to count everything on the 18-19 GT side right? So presently we have 3-4 months (winter) of GT data compared to 2.75 yrs of Camaro data. All owner claimed stock times are accepted, your rules not mine.

Any publication reviewed times or speed shop times are not allowed because they obviously cheated. (Unless the times only make the GT look slow)

SS A8 statistical average is 12.09 sec @ 115.3 mph. That’s average.

With a large enough body of data the true picture can be seen. Even I, a crappy driver on a crappy track, had no trouble running 12.2. I never go.

[modru2004]

people also seem to forget that performance shops are in the business of selling people shit. they have everything to gain by fudging marketing (like every other company in the history of selling products) and lying. its literally money in the bank. are the mustang guys naive enough to believe everything they hear/see in a commercial as 100% true? that's exactly what this shit is. its a commercial for a performance shop. just look at the incongruity in american muscles dyno graphs they have been marketing on their youtube channel.

[drew peacock]

https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/sho...48#post2206148

lol more 2018's going bang

[torqueaddict]

Yep, here's the new thread on the Mustang 2018 gt blown engine:

https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=101416

Not sure why anyone would rush to buy one of these ticking time bombs. Sorry, but no one is going convince me there isn't a serious reliability problem with these engines. It's like playing Russian Roulette.

[ULTRAZLS1]

We have a thread dedicated to lt1 engine failures as well.

Happens to them all. Just saying

People also call the a8 trash. Plenty of issues supposedly. Mine has been amazing. And I beat the hell out of it from day one. Was at the track on paper tags lol

[torqueaddict]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

We have a thread dedicated to lt1 engine failures as well.

Happens to them all. Just saying

People also call the a8 trash. Plenty of issues supposedly. Mine has been amazing. And I beat the hell out of it from day one. Was at the track on paper tags lol

LT1's aren't failing nearly as much. Early on I understand there were issues, but haven't seen enough lately to be concerned.

The Coyotes seem to have more issues in general. For a new car just released, there have been too many failures IMO. There is a weak point somewhere as they've been failing at low speeds.

I agree with the A8s though. There have been too many issues to ignore. Chevy needs to redesign or source the converters from a different supplier. They may have improved in the 2018s, but only time will tell. I still wouldn't call them trash though.

However if I was in the market for an automatic, I'd take my chances with the A10.

[ULTRAZLS1]

If I get converter issues I’ll just buy an aftermarket stall. Kinda want one anyway. But so far it’s been great. But I only got 7k miles. Albeit 7k HARD miles lol

I really like the a8. If the a10 is that much better it must really be something

[torqueaddict]

^^Glad you lucked out. That tranny is strong no doubt.

[SpeedIsLife]

Originally Posted by drew peacock

https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/sho...48#post2206148

lol more 2018's going bang

I guess this section doesn't exist then does it..

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=257

[ST1LE]

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

I guess this section doesn't exist then does it..

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=257

See post #427

[SpeedIsLife]

Originally Posted by ST1LE

See post #427

I know, I was more so asking a rhetorical question. All cars have problems, I just dislike the intentional distortion of facts and circumstances against any manufacturer. It's bullcrap when the Ford guys say the Camaro is a parts bin car, or it's a piece of junk or whatever, and it's bullcrap when the opposite happens.

[torqueaddict]

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

I know, I was more so asking a rhetorical question. All cars have problems, I just dislike the intentional distortion of facts and circumstances against any manufacturer. It's bullcrap when the Ford guys say the Camaro is a parts bin car, or it's a piece of junk or whatever, and it's bullcrap when the opposite happens.

Doesn't change the fact that Coyotes seem to be failing more than they should. That's hard to ignore. When you have Mustang guys who just bought their brand new 2018s having second thoughts about moding them, you might have a problem. What's concerning is the fact that the symptoms seem to be similar, which points to an underlying issue, not just bad luck. No distortion here.