Catch cans and you, discussion. - Page 2

GTIanZ28 · 06-29-2016, 04:10 PM

Just took this picture of my 4000 mi V6 last night.

if a catch can will reduce buildup I definitely want one. And, I can't imagine why there would be warranty issues for a part that helps prevent carbon buildup on the valves.

SS 1LE · 06-29-2016, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GTIanZ28

And, I can't imagine why there would be warranty issues for a part that helps prevent carbon buildup on the valves.

I agree, but some dealers offer a cleaning service and would probably rather you bucked up for that when needed, who knows...

Pretty sure BMW uses a cleaning system and recommends it every 25,000 miles or every two years if I recall. That may be overkill...

bpang1234 · 06-29-2016, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SS 1LE

I agree, but some dealers offer a cleaning service and would probably rather you bucked up for that when needed, who knows...

Pretty sure BMW uses a cleaning system and recommends it every 25,000 miles or every two years if I recall. That may be overkill...

The BMW turbocharged I-6 is pretty famous for needing cleaning very often.

I have a Mishimoto Catch Can and it is installed.

JFM-jr · 06-29-2016, 08:06 PM

I just emptied my Mishimoto can for the third time. It has had oil in it every time I checked it so its serving a function.

Algeron · 06-29-2016, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemosine

I may get myself one, but if your worried about warranty issues just remove it if you need work done at the Chevy House. Its not as if it is Long Tube Headers, and you have to jack up the car, unbolt Long Tubes, re-install old Headers. Should be just a skip and a hop, but that is IMO.

You are right, it is a quick part to install and remove. However, with my track record, that becomes an issue. My 2016 has been in the shop twice since I bought it on 4-9-16, and it is still sitting there now. My 11 was in the shop for 11 months of 39 months.

Speedy1975 · 06-29-2016, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sledgehammer70

I had pulled my intake manifold off my car before I put my catch-can on (my first car) and saw oil in the IM, the intake itself and along the ports on the front 1/2 of the motor.

I do think GM CCV system works great, but the PCV side does push a good amount of blow-by through the system. Every car is different, but the stock untouched system will pass oil and gas mixtures through the system that will get burnt off.

Warranty claims are tricky, most dealerships do not care, while GM will instantly revoke a warranty for it just being in place. I change my own oil these days and do most of the work on my car myself. So, I am not all that worried.

I'll do my own work as well unless it's something expensive under warranty. Which CC did you choose and why?

Daves1SS · 06-29-2016, 09:10 PM

I've had my mishimoto catch can on mine for 5,000 miles now. I've gone to empty it 3 times now and each time there hasn't been enough oil in there for even 1 drop to come out.
Why is it that some of us get oil to empty and some don't? **shrugs shoulders**

Sledgehammer70 · 06-29-2016, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedy1975

I'll do my own work as well unless it's something expensive under warranty. Which CC did you choose and why?

I had an elite can on my Gen 5 and it suck to empty. I went withthe Mishimoto one as it was smaller easier to empty and blended well with the engine compartment. The build quality is really good (unlike their CAI) compared to other brands and they have a true baffle system.

SuperSound · 06-30-2016, 09:14 AM

I'll be installing my CC (a Mishimoto one) this weekend. I'll happily remove it for the once a year visit to the dealer, knowing that is at least stopping some oil. My '08 Jetta (DI turbo) was completely fouled at 36k miles and had lost 2 mpg on average each tank. Remember this isn't considered a "break" to OEMs since it's only reducing efficiency. Merely an opportunity to sell maintenance services. Most cars won't be noticeably affected until after the powertrain warranty is out.

SS 1LE · 06-30-2016, 09:41 AM

To add to my other post. My car will just be a weekend car, and only see about 5000 miles a year, so it would be awhile before I needed any cleaning done, but regardless, I really want to avoid having to use any kind of cleaning systems at the dealer. So a catch can will being going on after I get my car. Other things people need to remember in regards to DI is to use good oil, don't skimp on your oil change timeframes, and always try to use top tier, premium fuel.

If it's not on this list, it isn't top tier: http://www.toptiergas.com/retailers/

DI does need more "work", but the gains are worth it.

bballr4567 · 06-30-2016, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SS 1LE

To add to my other post. My car will just be a weekend car, and only see about 5000 miles a year, so it would be awhile before I needed any cleaning done, but regardless, I really want to avoid having to use any kind of cleaning systems at the dealer. So a catch can will being going on after I get my car. Other things people need to remember in regards to DI is to use good oil, don't skimp on your oil change timeframes, and always try to use top tier, premium fuel.

If it's not on this list, it isn't top tier: http://www.toptiergas.com/retailers/

DI does need more "work", but the gains are worth it.

What does using top tier have to do with? It's not like the valves get washed with fuel. The problem is that they DONT get washed with fuel so that PCV air just collects on the hot valve and bakes there just like on a flattop glass stove.

When I get my 1LE, it will have a CC installed. With the warranty being 60k miles, I want to make sure that I wont have any issues with the engine for as long as I own it.

6spdhyperblue · 06-30-2016, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Daves1SS

I've had my mishimoto catch can on mine for 5,000 miles now. I've gone to empty it 3 times now and each time there hasn't been enough oil in there for even 1 drop to come out.
Why is it that some of us get oil to empty and some don't? **shrugs shoulders**

if you spend most of you time under 1500 rpm vs someone cruising through the neighborhood at 3200 and constantly engine braking, you will have much less oil in your can

asimpleguy · 06-30-2016, 12:29 PM

AT MY LAST OIL CHANGE... THE CATCH CAN WORKS FOR SURE

Bells · 06-30-2016, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by asimpleguy

AT MY LAST OIL CHANGE... THE CATCH CAN WORKS FOR SURE

How many miles worth of oil is that?

06-29-2016, 04:10 PM	#15
GTIanZ28 Drives: 2016 V6 RS Camaro 6MT Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,102	Just took this picture of my 4000 mi V6 last night. if a catch can will reduce buildup I definitely want one. And, I can't imagine why there would be warranty issues for a part that helps prevent carbon buildup on the valves. __________________ Summit White 2LT RS V6 ZN2 NPP m6 khalihari interior. Order placed 9/26/15 - Picked up 12/17/15!

06-29-2016, 08:06 PM	#18
JFM-jr Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Suffolk Long Island Posts: 954	I just emptied my Mishimoto can for the third time. It has had oil in it every time I checked it so its serving a function. __________________ 2016 Hyper Blue 2SS A8,NPP,Moonroof Pray ported factory intake manifold Ported TB Rotofab ARH 1 7/8 longtubes hi flow cats AFM deleted E85 11.0@124.9 11.65@118.8 pump gas,stock tune/exhaust New combo: Pray Performance Heads/cam MSD intake manifold and Circle D 3C 554/491 on E85 all work & tuning done by Pray

06-29-2016, 09:10 PM	#21
Daves1SS Drives: 2016 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Pelham, AL Posts: 406	I've had my mishimoto catch can on mine for 5,000 miles now. I've gone to empty it 3 times now and each time there hasn't been enough oil in there for even 1 drop to come out. Why is it that some of us get oil to empty and some don't? shrugs shoulders __________________ 2016 Nightfall Gray Metallic 1SS 6MT, Edelbrock E-force supercharged, Killer Chiller with 3-way bypass, catch can *FOR SALE, MESSAGE ME IF INTERESTED* Previous: '12 Mustang GT 6MT (12.47 @ 115.88) '09 G8 GT (11.86 @ 120.47) '05 GTO 6MT (slow, lol) '01 Grand Prix GTP converted to turbo, high 11's

06-30-2016, 09:14 AM	#23
SuperSound Drives: '17 Camaro 2SS A8 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Eastern NC Posts: 5,063 View My Garage	I'll be installing my CC (a Mishimoto one) this weekend. I'll happily remove it for the once a year visit to the dealer, knowing that is at least stopping some oil. My '08 Jetta (DI turbo) was completely fouled at 36k miles and had lost 2 mpg on average each tank. Remember this isn't considered a "break" to OEMs since it's only reducing efficiency. Merely an opportunity to sell maintenance services. Most cars won't be noticeably affected until after the powertrain warranty is out. __________________ Current: '17 2SS Hyper Blue, A8, MRC, NPP Past: '99 SS Camaro A4, '73 Camaro 383 A3 "Voices in your head are not considered insider information." 3800 Status - 6/16/16 (Built!) 6000 status - 6/29/16 (Delivered!)

06-30-2016, 12:29 PM	#27
asimpleguy Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Fort worth, tx Posts: 266	AT MY LAST OIL CHANGE... THE CATCH CAN WORKS FOR SURE Attached Images

06-30-2016, 09:41 AM	#24
SS 1LE マスタング = 遅い Drives: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Florida Posts: 7,061	To add to my other post. My car will just be a weekend car, and only see about 5000 miles a year, so it would be awhile before I needed any cleaning done, but regardless, I really want to avoid having to use any kind of cleaning systems at the dealer. So a catch can will being going on after I get my car. Other things people need to remember in regards to DI is to use good oil, don't skimp on your oil change timeframes, and always try to use top tier, premium fuel. If it's not on this list, it isn't top tier: http://www.toptiergas.com/retailers/ DI does need more "work", but the gains are worth it.

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