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Elanore · 08-23-2015, 03:41 PM

I am getting ready to do a cam swap on my L99, probably going with the night fury cam. Question I have is do I have to do the VVT and DOD delete in order to do the cam swap? I have the DOD deleted via my SCT tuner now. I was told that I had to do the DOD delete in order to do the cam. What are the advantages or disadvantages of deleting or not deleting?

376LS3 · 08-23-2015, 03:57 PM

Yes, to run a Night Fury you will have to delete everything and run a basic LS3 setup. To make more with less, look into a VVT cam and take advantage of what you have.

Elanore · 08-23-2015, 04:26 PM

Gotcha thanks for the info

376LS3 · 08-23-2015, 04:56 PM

Look into the GPI SS2, SS3, and SS4 cams depending on your goals. Talk to Rhino79 on here. He has the fastest cam/head only car on the list. VVT is the way to do it!

Bo White · 08-24-2015, 12:04 AM

I think he went solid roller now but still lol. VVT cams really have came a long way.

JCunningham · 08-24-2015, 02:00 AM

They make the night fury with VVT http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=355226
you need to replace the stock lifters to do a cam and that will eliminate the AFM/dod

krisprz2010camaross · 08-24-2015, 02:53 AM

I always see people on here saying that a VVT cam is the way to go, but then why is there a ls3 conversion kit? Do you make more power with a VVT cam for the L99?

JCunningham · 08-24-2015, 02:58 AM

yes you can make more with a VVT cam and better drivability. Aftermarket VVT cams are very new. Not long ago the only cam swaps you could do on a L99 was a LS3 cam so you needed a ls3 conversion kit.

krisprz2010camaross · 08-24-2015, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by JCunningham

yes you can make more with a VVT cam and better drivability. Aftermarket VVT cams are very new. Not long ago the only cam swaps you could do on a L99 was a LS3 cam so you needed a ls3 conversion kit.

Thanks for explaining! Another question what are some good VVT cams that make alot of power, but are still good for daily driving? I was thinking about getting the Phastek Stage 3 LS3 Camshaft by MTI/Comp Cams with L99 to Ls3 conversion kit and BTR titanium valve springs. Not sure anymore lol.

JCunningham · 08-24-2015, 03:18 AM

Call Pat G http://www.guerragroup.com/#!camshaft-help/c1mq5 and get a Custom Cam Motion cam.

krisprz2010camaross · 08-24-2015, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by JCunningham

Call Pat G http://www.guerragroup.com/#!camshaft-help/c1mq5 and get a Custom Cam Motion cam.

Oh ok thank you! I will definitely talk to him.

LSX Camaro · 08-24-2015, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by krisprz2010camaross

Oh ok thank you! I will definitely talk to him.

Pat G. specd my cam. Excellent results.

tboyd3089 · 08-24-2015, 10:53 AM

So would you pick up more hp going non-VVT? It seems to me that ppl going VVT are getting less hp? Is this true?

Pro Stock John · 08-24-2015, 10:59 AM

I daily drive my GPI VVT SS3.

I have other mods (ported heads, 3.91 gear, 3800 converter), and I just want to share that I trapped 123 and 124 on two different passes last week.

08-23-2015, 03:41 PM	#1
Elanore Drives: 2013 Camaro SS Silver Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Cordova, Tn Posts: 121	Cam install question I am getting ready to do a cam swap on my L99, probably going with the night fury cam. Question I have is do I have to do the VVT and DOD delete in order to do the cam swap? I have the DOD deleted via my SCT tuner now. I was told that I had to do the DOD delete in order to do the cam. What are the advantages or disadvantages of deleting or not deleting? __________________ Mods: CAI, Flowmaster dual super 10s exhaust, TSP 2" headers no cats, vmax throttle body, catch can, 1.25" BMR lowering springs, GPI SS3 cam, 4K stall triple disk converter, Holley EFI fuel rails

08-23-2015, 03:57 PM	#2
376LS3 Eh, that'll happen Drives: 2010 2SS Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Mesa, Arizona Posts: 1,841	Yes, to run a Night Fury you will have to delete everything and run a basic LS3 setup. To make more with less, look into a VVT cam and take advantage of what you have. __________________ 2010 Camaro SS LS3 - No Modz

08-23-2015, 04:26 PM	#3
Elanore Drives: 2013 Camaro SS Silver Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Cordova, Tn Posts: 121	Gotcha thanks for the info __________________ Mods: CAI, Flowmaster dual super 10s exhaust, TSP 2" headers no cats, vmax throttle body, catch can, 1.25" BMR lowering springs, GPI SS3 cam, 4K stall triple disk converter, Holley EFI fuel rails

08-23-2015, 04:56 PM	#4
376LS3 Eh, that'll happen Drives: 2010 2SS Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Mesa, Arizona Posts: 1,841	Look into the GPI SS2, SS3, and SS4 cams depending on your goals. Talk to Rhino79 on here. He has the fastest cam/head only car on the list. VVT is the way to do it! __________________ 2010 Camaro SS LS3 - No Modz

08-24-2015, 02:00 AM	#6
JCunningham Drives: 2017 2SS M6 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: WNY Posts: 7,070	They make the night fury with VVT http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=355226 you need to replace the stock lifters to do a cam and that will eliminate the AFM/dod __________________ real ZL1 wheels and brakes, 285/305 Michelin Pilot Super Sports, Pray ported Intake manifold, Soler Throttle Body, Rotofab intake, EFI Tuning Flex fuel kit, full American Racing Headers Exhaust, 1 7/8" w/ cats H pipe and mufflers. Full 1LE suspension, with BMR adjustable sway bars and links, GM aluminum cradle bushings, Hurst shifter with lighter reverse spring, TWM shifter knob, Tick level 1 transmission. I should have bought a ZL1

08-24-2015, 12:04 AM	#5
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,019	I think he went solid roller now but still lol. VVT cams really have came a long way.

08-24-2015, 02:53 AM	#7
krisprz2010camaross Drives: 2010 Camaro 2ss/Rs Transformers Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Yorba Linda, California Posts: 1,564	I always see people on here saying that a VVT cam is the way to go, but then why is there a ls3 conversion kit? Do you make more power with a VVT cam for the L99? __________________ YouTube:Krisprz garage Insta:kris__perez & krisprz_garage LS3 conversion Vararam intake(tune model) Kooks LT headers & cats delete Corsa ZL1 3" exhaust RedBarn Racing Tune CMS Stage 3 Cam AFR CNC ported heads MSD Spark plug wires LNC-2000 Launch controller NGK TR6 Spark Plugs 1le strut tower brace-TPIS spacers Nick Williams 102mm throttle body Fast lsxr 102 intake manifold Slp 25% UDP Katech Tensioner Pulley Circle D 3600-3700 multi disk Stall GM 3.91 gears DDS carbon fiber driveshaft ZL1 fuel pump & injectors Flex fuel sensor(91/E85) https://wheelwell.com/kris-perez

08-24-2015, 02:58 AM	#8
JCunningham Drives: 2017 2SS M6 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: WNY Posts: 7,070	yes you can make more with a VVT cam and better drivability. Aftermarket VVT cams are very new. Not long ago the only cam swaps you could do on a L99 was a LS3 cam so you needed a ls3 conversion kit. __________________ real ZL1 wheels and brakes, 285/305 Michelin Pilot Super Sports, Pray ported Intake manifold, Soler Throttle Body, Rotofab intake, EFI Tuning Flex fuel kit, full American Racing Headers Exhaust, 1 7/8" w/ cats H pipe and mufflers. Full 1LE suspension, with BMR adjustable sway bars and links, GM aluminum cradle bushings, Hurst shifter with lighter reverse spring, TWM shifter knob, Tick level 1 transmission. I should have bought a ZL1

08-24-2015, 03:18 AM	#10
JCunningham Drives: 2017 2SS M6 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: WNY Posts: 7,070	Call Pat G http://www.guerragroup.com/#!camshaft-help/c1mq5 and get a Custom Cam Motion cam. __________________ real ZL1 wheels and brakes, 285/305 Michelin Pilot Super Sports, Pray ported Intake manifold, Soler Throttle Body, Rotofab intake, EFI Tuning Flex fuel kit, full American Racing Headers Exhaust, 1 7/8" w/ cats H pipe and mufflers. Full 1LE suspension, with BMR adjustable sway bars and links, GM aluminum cradle bushings, Hurst shifter with lighter reverse spring, TWM shifter knob, Tick level 1 transmission. I should have bought a ZL1

08-24-2015, 10:53 AM	#13
tboyd3089 Drives: 2014 Camaro SS Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 2	So would you pick up more hp going non-VVT? It seems to me that ppl going VVT are getting less hp? Is this true?

08-24-2015, 10:59 AM	#14
Pro Stock John Writer Drives: 2010 SS / 1967 Camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 7,216	I daily drive my GPI VVT SS3. I have other mods (ported heads, 3.91 gear, 3800 converter), and I just want to share that I trapped 123 and 124 on two different passes last week. __________________ PROJECT HEAVY CHEVY Camaro Now: Mods for the Masses Part I \| Part II 13.15@106 1.95 \| 100% Stock 12.37@112 1.85 \| + Kooks Headers/Cats + 20" 555R + CAI + BW TB + UDP + Tune 12.06@113 1.70 \| + CD 3200 + 18" NT05R + RCR Intake + NE OTR + GPI Tune 11.84@115 1.59 \| + 3.91s + Race Star 17x7 Fronts 10.90@125 1.47 \| + GPI VVT Cam + BW Ported Heads + CD 3800