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Old 07-17-2017, 03:24 PM   #1
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Moreno Motorsports Camber/Caster Kits ready to Rock n Roll!!

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Why camber/caster plates?

We’ve been preaching the gospel of the camber/caster plates for a while now. For the significant benefits they provide, we consider them low hanging fruit. Multimatic, manufacturer of the epic Z/28 and ZL1 1LE DSSV dampers, seems to agree with us, as they purchased 5th gen Camaro camber/caster plates from Moreno Motorsports 2 years ago which they used on their own Z/28, and with the clearly observed advantages, you now see that the 2018 ZL1 1LE comes with adjustable camber plates as standard equipment.

In every racing scenario, tire alignment is extremely critical. You can have the stickiest tire compound available, but a proper racing spec alignment to go with them, they will not perform optimally, and will wear quickly. This is because tires are designed to work within a specific range of camber, and with track tires, that happy range becomes smaller, so alignment becomes even more critical.

Simply put, the stock configuration does not allow for enough adjustment range of camber to meet the requirements of track cars. insufficient camber at the track means grip/traction is being left at the table, and the outside of your tires will wear quicker than they should. By adding negative camber you will immediately notice improved turn in worth seconds off your lap times -- and with track tires costing $400-600 per corner, camber/caster plates become an elegant, inexpensive solution to outer tire wear.


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After nearly a year of R&D, with several design iterations, Moreno Motorsports 6th gen camaro adjustable top mounts are finally here. Offering over 2 degrees of additional adjustability in camber or caster, you will easily be able to achieve 4.5 degrees of negative camber. Moreno Motorsports adjustable top mounts feature a versatile design that gives you the ability to optionally lower the front of your car by .5” without changing spring rate or affecting ride quality, or keep it at stock height.

Features

- Easy installation.

- 24mm linear adjustability, equating to over 2 degrees of additional adjustability for camber or caster.

- Optionally lower the front of your car by 1/2" without affecting spring rates, or keep at stock height.

- Bulletproof, maintenance free 3/4” ID USA made FK spherical bearing has the ability to carry twice the load than 5/8" bearings that are typically used in camber plates. Spherical bearing allows unrestricted strut articulation unlike factory rubber upper mount.

- O-ring sealed, maintenance free roller thrust bearings allow for spring to rotate independently of strut.

- Adjustment screws are 8mm for superior strength and reliability.

- Anodized top plate. Mid plate is finished with a durable electroless nickel for high scratch resistance.

- Proudly machined and assembled in the USA.




Quality control

As some know, we recently brought a new 3-axis CNC machining center in house with the intent of manufacturing our own products, as opposed to outsourcing. Machining in house has proven to be extremely advantageous, as we now have direct control over the quality of our parts, while also being able to bring better value to the market, since we are not paying high hourly rates for a slow manufacturer to make our parts. In fact, out of the nine specifically designed components that make up one of our camber/caster plates, seven of ‘em are CNC machined from a billet. The other two are CNC laser cut.



Making adjustments

Adjusting the Moreno plates is extremely simple; all that is needed is a 6mm allen wrench, jack, and 5 minutes. Simply loosen the 8mm bolts a few turns with the allen key, raise the front until pressure is relieved from the plate, adjust, and tighten. Rinse and repeat for the other side and you’re done.

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Adjustability

The Moreno Camber/Caster kit offers 24mm of linear adjustability, and 90 degrees of rotational adjustability. This equates to greater than 2 degrees in adjustability from center to max in camber and caster, meaning you will be able to easily achieve over 4.5 degrees of negative camber or 9.5 degrees of caster -- enough adjustability to satisfy the most extreme racer’s needs!



Bearings

Typically, camber plates use 5/8” spherical bearings, as they are seen as having sufficient strength, and are inexpensive. However, due to their size and rigidity, over time, the bearing wears and the mono ball becomes loose in the race. This is the main cause of the notorious clunking noises that are known to come from camber plates. To completely solve this issue, the Moreno plates use much larger, heat treated, Made in the USA, ¾” mono ball bearings capable of taking twice the load as the 5/8” equivalent. Further, the bearings are lined with teflon so that they are self lubricating, meaning you will never have to worry about greasing or maintenance.

To allow for the spring to move independently from the top mounts, a USA made roller thrust bearing is placed in between the plate and spring perch, in a sealed housing so that no water or contaminants can reach it. Since the roller thrust bearing is isolated from the elements, it is once again, maintenance free.

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Plate design/engineering

Where competing brands use 6mm or smaller adjustment screws, the Moreno kit uses much stronger 8mm socket head cap screws torqued to 22 ft-lbs to keep the plates in place. Together, these bolts provide a massive clamping force, so that undesired movement becomes impossible. The 8mm SHCS’s take a large 6mm allen key, so that they will never strip -- a common issue with the smaller screws.

We’ve noticed with other designs which have adjustment slots on the top plate (including our original 5th gen kit), that damage to the plate occurred as the bolts are tightened in different locations. The Moreno design has the slot transferred to the mid plate, so that the bolts no longer move in relation to the top plate, resulting in a much longer lasting, clean aesthetic.


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These camber plates are designed to work with any stock system. Yes, they WILL fit your MRC struts, and standard struts. If you have aftermarket coilovers that utilize the stock top mounts, you will not have any issues with fitment. Custom coilovers are not an issue as a simple spring perch can be added so that any kit that uses a 2.5” or 60mm ID spring can be used. If there are any concerns with fitment, just contact us. We have not seen any struts that we do not have a solution for. We’ll go as far as making you a custom spring perch if necessary at no extra charge.


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Old 07-17-2017, 03:32 PM   #2
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Awesome! What is the price? Any initial/launch release or group buy pricing? Do these require any modification to the stock strut tower or is it completely reversible? Thanks!

EDIT: $549 on their website. I'll likely be buying these shortly

EDIT 2: One more question, do you know if these will work with a strut tower brace?

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Old 07-17-2017, 07:30 PM   #3
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Awesome! What is the price? Any initial/launch release or group buy pricing? Do these require any modification to the stock strut tower or is it completely reversible? Thanks!

EDIT: $549 on their website. I'll likely be buying these shortly

EDIT 2: One more question, do you know if these will work with a strut tower brace?
Hey Eric,

YES, these WILL FIT with the strut tower brace.

Correct on the price, details on an introductory offer will be posted in a separate thread, as per forum rules!

There is no drilling or permanent modification required in your strut tower! HOWEVER, your spring perch does need to be modified for proper installation. This is simply the result of how the OEM spring perch/strut mount is designed.

The modification is quite simple, as you only need to drill out the shaft hole from 14mm (~9/16") to 3/4". This can easily be done with a #3 step drill (less than $10 from amazon). If you guys think we should offer the required drill bit on our website, let us know and we will do that.

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Great, thanks for the info! Looking forward to the thread with the introductory pricing.
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Old 07-17-2017, 08:28 PM   #5
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Sale thread HERE

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Old 07-18-2017, 01:22 PM   #6
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Any testing on an SS 1LE or a ZL1 with mag ride? This could be an awesome solution for us wanting to run Hoosiers that require -3.5*
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Old 07-18-2017, 01:31 PM   #7
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Any testing on an SS 1LE or a ZL1 with mag ride? This could be an awesome solution for us wanting to run Hoosiers that require -3.5*
Yes sir, this kit was designed with you guys in mind. It will fit your mag ride struts without any issues.
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Old 07-18-2017, 01:48 PM   #8
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Excellent! Now to find an installer who knows what they are doing...
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Excellent! Now to find an installer who knows what they are doing...
I was planning on doing this myself. It doesn't seem like it should be to tough but maybe I'm missing something.
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Forgot to add, if you have any white vinyl stickers to throw into my order, feel free to! I'll throw them on the car.
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Old 07-18-2017, 04:40 PM   #11
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The install is not too bad. You'll need a jack/jackstands, some wrenches, a drill to modify the OEM spring perch (see post #3), and a spring compressor to remove the OEM strut mounts (which you can borrow from autozone if you dont have one).

Eric,

Thanks for the order

We just ran out of stickers, but we have some on the way. your kit will go out tomorrow, or if your not in a hurry, i can hold it till we get the stickers in and ship them out together.
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Thanks for the order

We just ran out of stickers, but we have some on the way. your kit will go out tomorrow, or if your not in a hurry, i can hold it till we get the stickers in and ship them out together.
I can wait. We're shut down in Phoenix for the summer anyway and I'm not planning on doing the install until it cools down. Thanks!
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I'll be getting in on these before the 4th, that's for sure! lot in stock? or making em as they are ordered?
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Old 07-19-2017, 06:05 AM   #14
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I'll be getting in on these before the 4th, that's for sure! lot in stock? or making em as they are ordered?
We made a lot for the introductory PROMO but they are going fast! It looks like we will be out before the promo is over. I will hold a set aside for you as I know you always been supportive of our efforts

BTW, We at Moreno Motorsports really appreciate your guys patron! We are reinvesting our proceed to bring the Camaro community more great products to make your already Bad A$$ Camaro's even MORE better. Stay TUNED!

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