7th Gen: Large Volume Low/Mid Price Range Front-Engine V8 Muscle Car (2+2 Seater)? - Page 5

Bongos2U · 07-11-2018, 04:30 PM

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Another one to add to this list would be "There's no replacement for displacement".

redcoats1976 · 07-11-2018, 04:34 PM

you know what GM could sell all day long?a revamped pontiac solstice,2-3 inches longer for legroom,hardtop only to do away with the finky and unreliable convertible top,with the base T4 camaro engine and trans in it.hell...id trade my camaro in on that.prices on the hardtop solstice are increasing steadily because people like and want them.

Number 3 · 07-11-2018, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by redcoats1976

you know what GM could sell all day long?a revamped pontiac solstice,2-3 inches longer for legroom,hardtop only to do away with the finky and unreliable convertible top,with the base T4 camaro engine and trans in it.hell...id trade my camaro in on that.prices on the hardtop solstice are increasing steadily because people like and want them.

But mostly because they made so few of them. The Solstice hard top is a very rare car. I can't even recall the last time I saw one. 1100 built.

https://downshiftautos.com/2013/03/0...ice-gxp-coupe/

Loved my Sky Redline, but in reality it was not a high quality car. But it was a fun convertible.

Martinjlm · 07-11-2018, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by redcoats1976

you know what GM could sell all day long?a revamped pontiac solstice,2-3 inches longer for legroom,hardtop only to do away with the finky and unreliable convertible top,with the base T4 camaro engine and trans in it.hell...id trade my camaro in on that.prices on the hardtop solstice are increasing steadily because people like and want them.

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Originally Posted by Number 3

But mostly because they made so few of them. The Solstice hard top is a very rare car. I can't even recall the last time I saw one. 1100 built.

https://downshiftautos.com/2013/03/0...ice-gxp-coupe/

Loved my Sky Redline, but in reality it was not a high quality car. But it was a fun convertible.

Still kicking myself. When Pontiac was about to be mothballed, dealers in the Detroit area were pricing to move metal so that they could shut the doors and re-open as some other brand. Went to my local Buick - Pontiac dealer. They had a silver Solstice Redline hardtop that I could have driven home for $16,000. I made the mistake of asking permission rather than begging forgiveness. I don’t know how many of the 1,100 hardtops were Redlines. And I don’t wanna know.

JhonnyGTR · 07-11-2018, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Martinjlm

Still kicking myself. When Pontiac was about to be mothballed, dealers in the Detroit area were pricing to move metal so that they could shut the doors and re-open as some other brand. Went to my local Buick - Pontiac dealer. They had a silver Solstice Redline hardtop that I could have driven home for $16,000. I made the mistake of asking permission rather than begging forgiveness. I don’t know how many of the 1,100 hardtops were Redlines. And I don’t wanna know.

Ouch, Just Ouch

Norm Peterson · 07-15-2018, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 02fbody35th

I think a lot of people feel that way because the camaro starts out as a 4 or 6 cylinder rental and is built up from there. Where as the corvette is a exclusive “V8 only” sports car that is chevys golden child.

The Corvette is Chevy's sports car. The Camaro is Chevy's 2+2 sport coupe. The difference is one of character, not necessarily involving measured performance stats.

The Corvette had at one time the XKE Jaguar as its perceived competition. More recently, the 911 Porsches and for a couple of times the Viper.

The Camaro faces off against the Mustang, to some extent the Challenger (the Mopar was a clearer matchup about 50 years ago), and maybe the M3 BMW.

Norm

LuvMI · 07-15-2018, 08:02 PM

That v6 engine is still a beast in its own right. Hard to believe they would set it out to pasture as good as it now is.

CCG Garnet Red · 07-15-2018, 08:10 PM

My friend has one, LS3, seats five, handles like on rails, but listed for $50K and is loaded. Called simply the SS and no longer in production (and Holden no longer produces anything). Very few people know it exists or what it is. He said most think it is some kind of Malibu. BTW, he scared me to death in a ride in it.

shaffe · 07-16-2018, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Norm Peterson

The Corvette is America's sports car. The Camaro is Chevy's 2+2 sport coupe. The difference is one of character, not necessarily involving measured performance stats.

The Corvette had at one time the XKE Jaguar as its perceived competition. More recently, the 911 Porsches and for a couple of times the Viper.

The Camaro faces off against the Mustang, to some extent the Challenger (the Mopar was a clearer matchup about 50 years ago), and maybe the M3 BMW.

Norm

Fixed it for you!

Norm Peterson · 07-16-2018, 09:43 AM

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Fixed it for you!

I'll give you that the 'Vette has had the staying power that the Viper couldn't quite achieve (and that Ford's GT40/GT never came close to getting). So I guess that makes it "America's sports car" by default.

That's not a put-down. Under somewhat different circumstances I'd be driving a 7th gen Grand Sport instead of a Mustang GT. I did get to drive a Z51 for one lap at speed around NJMP/Thunderbolt a while back.

Norm

freddyD · 01-12-2019, 08:43 AM

I said it once and I will say it again,want a fight?Pick a topic-types of wax, oil, tires,engine size,catch can,no catch can and on andon it goes! You should have this or that! O really?

bpang1234 · 01-12-2019, 07:51 PM

I expect Camaro to go to just the Turbo-4, the Mild-Hybrid V8 and some kind of Forced Inducted V8. There will be no totally N/A cars in the near future...just look at the light-duty truck segment.

Norm Peterson · 01-13-2019, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by bpang1234

I expect Camaro to go to just the Turbo-4, the Mild-Hybrid V8 and some kind of Forced Inducted V8. There will be no totally N/A cars in the near future...just look at the light-duty truck segment.

Maybe, but I'm way not convinced that trucks make for the right kind of comparison to use.

Trucks need low-end and midrange torque to deal with being loaded to full GVW way more than they need top-end HP and high rev capability. In a performance car with much smaller passenger + cargo loading, you really can't use more than X amount of torque in the lower gears unless you just torque-manage it away.

Norm

Lynix · 05-03-2019, 06:55 AM

Man you v8 only guys really wanna see the Camaro die huh?

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07-15-2018, 08:02 PM	#63
LuvMI Lovin the growl... Drives: 2018 2SS Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Rogers, Arkansas Posts: 926	That v6 engine is still a beast in its own right. Hard to believe they would set it out to pasture as good as it now is. __________________ 2018 2SS: Garnet Red, NPP, Kalahari interior, sky lid.

01-12-2019, 07:51 PM	#68
bpang1234 You can only YOLO once. Drives: '16 2SS & '15 Subaru Forester Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Albany, OR Posts: 1,677	I expect Camaro to go to just the Turbo-4, the Mild-Hybrid V8 and some kind of Forced Inducted V8. There will be no totally N/A cars in the near future...just look at the light-duty truck segment. __________________ 2016 Camaro 2ss -Summit White / Ceramic White -8A, NPP, MRC, Ceramic White package plus knee pads, black bowties. -1st Car to have the "full" SEMA High Performance Graphics kit from 6LEDesigns. -1st Car to have the 6LEDesigns Blade Spoiler. -Borla S-Type w/ custom H-Pipe -Procharger P-1X Stage 2

07-11-2018, 04:30 PM	#57
Bongos2U Drives: Hopefully 6th gen Camaro Join Date: May 2015 Location: Socal Posts: 586	https://aplus.com/a/15-phrases-do-no...etization=true Another one to add to this list would be "There's no replacement for displacement".

07-11-2018, 04:34 PM	#58
redcoats1976 Drives: LT W/2LT,blue metallic Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: central florida Posts: 4,916	you know what GM could sell all day long?a revamped pontiac solstice,2-3 inches longer for legroom,hardtop only to do away with the finky and unreliable convertible top,with the base T4 camaro engine and trans in it.hell...id trade my camaro in on that.prices on the hardtop solstice are increasing steadily because people like and want them.

07-15-2018, 08:10 PM	#64
CCG Garnet Red Drives: 2017 RS Garnet Red Tintcoat A8 Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Northeast Mississippi Posts: 346	My friend has one, LS3, seats five, handles like on rails, but listed for $50K and is loaded. Called simply the SS and no longer in production (and Holden no longer produces anything). Very few people know it exists or what it is. He said most think it is some kind of Malibu. BTW, he scared me to death in a ride in it.

01-12-2019, 08:43 AM	#67
freddyD Drives: 2020 rally green rs Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Naples Florida Posts: 1,159	I said it once and I will say it again,want a fight?Pick a topic-types of wax, oil, tires,engine size,catch can,no catch can and on andon it goes! You should have this or that! O really?

05-03-2019, 06:55 AM	#70
Lynix Drives: 2020 3LT Shock and Steel Edition Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Florida Posts: 32	Man you v8 only guys really wanna see the Camaro die huh?

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