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Old 07-22-2018, 12:38 AM   #1
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1le break in period?

So I’ve always thought it was 1500 miles for break in period. Then I saw this while looking up something else. Anybody have more info or thoughts on it?Name:  FC5ADA0E-BB2B-49C1-A895-2510AC563B56.jpg
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Old 07-22-2018, 12:43 AM   #2
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So I’ve always thought it was 1500 miles for break in period. Then I saw this while looking up something else. Anybody have more info or thoughts on it?
https://www.camaro6.com/forums/searc...rchid=49388630

Never been discussed before.
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Old 07-22-2018, 12:56 AM   #3
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Old 07-22-2018, 01:11 AM   #4
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Hi all, I've had my 1ss 1le for two weeks now (1300 miles) and I'm excited to attend my first track day on the 24th! I will be changing oil and diff once I hit 1500 miles. I've never been on a track or had a car like this so I just want to be as prepared as I can be. Here are some questions and concerns I have.
1. What is necessary to do and change on the car before I track it?
2. What should I do about an alignment? I don't daily my car It's 80% used for very spirited mountain roads and probably one or so track days a month.
3. I saw something about removing the front break splash shields? Does that apply to 1le?
4.If anything what should I bring with me?
5. Any good advice, videos or reads I should be aware of?
I know this is a lot but I just want the car and myself to be as prepared as possible.
Thanks for any and all help in advanced!
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**i'm dictating this as well as i can, don't take my word for it, though, read your own manual and be responsible for your own stuff**

i think most of us have heard that al oppenheimer stated "if you keep your car stock, yet it breaks at the track, we'll cover it under warranty!" but of course we must follow the protocol outlined for us so i wanted to put it together for those guys who may have *ahem* lost their manuals. i've seen a little of this info around by reading through various threads but i wanted to put it all in one thread to help keep our cars covered under warranty.

Regarding track events and competitive driving i read a couple things that may be of interest:

pages 197-201 for those of you following along at home:

engine oil:
2.0L engine: keep the oil at or near 1L above the upper mark on the engine oil dipstick which shows proper range.

6.2L engine: change oil to 0w-40 or 5W-40 that meets dexos2 specifications (if that's not available use: valvoline synpower mst 5w-40, mobil 1 esp formula m 5w-40).

auto tranny: have transmission fluid set to track specific oil level prior to track usage...change after 30hrs track usage...sets/changes should be performed at dealer

rear axle fluid: axel must have 1,500 mi before track driving ... drain and refill after the first racing or competitive event and then every 24hrs of racing/competitive driving. [*note* on page 208 in the break-in area, it states: "should the vehicle be used for racing or competitive driving (after break-in), the rear axel lubricant must be replaced before hand." this seems like a direct contradiction with what's being said in the track section... not sure if i should replace it before or after my first event....)

brake fluid: dry boinling point of fluid should be >534F ..."do not use silicone or DOT-5 brake fluids" ... i'm not an engineer, so i can't discuss this, but it's very clear that it says not to use the stuff... someone in another thread was advising a guy to use DOT-5...based on this, i won't be using it.

brake burnishing: it's the most extensive pad-bedding i've ever seen... with new pads (<200mi), brake at 0.4g from 60mph to 30mph 25 times!! with 0.6mi between applications; then, for 25more times brake at 0.8g from 60mph to 15mph without ABS activation, again with 0.6mi between applications, drive for 10mi at 60mph without touching the brakes, then brake 25 more times from 60mph to 30mph at 0.4g with 0.6mi between applications!! if you have more than 200 miles on your pads, you can skip the first section. so that means, with new pads you're basically driving 55+ miles (minus the actual braking distances), and with "used brakes" with over 200mi on them... you're at 40+ minus braking distances. ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME?!?!?!?!? come on guys... show of hands.... who has done this? and did you get a good GoPro vid of it? mind...blown.

front tire deflectors, lower control arm deflectors, and disc splash shields (SS only): detailed info on how to replace the standard shields with the track-day shields including the proper torque of the bolts. (if someone does this and has photos that'd be awesome!)

this is all i've come up with so far. i just thought some guys might want to see this and make sure you cross your Ts and dot your Is... most of it makes sense to me except the crazy brake pad bedding procedure and the recommendation on rear axle lube swap timing.

hopefully someone will search at some point and find this useful!

Can't wait to get my car on the track but it looks like i have a little work to do to get it ready even though i'm taking it bone stock!
https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showt...ighlight=break

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Old 07-22-2018, 01:11 AM   #5
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That brake break-in seems a little ridiculous. Seems pretty excessive. What is the purpose of this?
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Old 07-22-2018, 01:13 AM   #6
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That brake break-in seems a little ridiculous. Seems pretty excessive. What is the purpose of this?
It's for track preparation. It's to ensure maximum efficiency for the braking system.
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Old 07-22-2018, 03:49 AM   #7
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Old 07-22-2018, 04:36 AM   #8
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whats the problem?
OP wanted suggestions on the conflicting break in period between the owner's manual and the supplement pictured above. It's only been discussed in two dozen threads.
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Old 07-22-2018, 07:16 AM   #9
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Overall break in period is listed as 500 miles. But 1500 miles is listed as a required break in period for track/competitive driving, which is the same as in the HP Supplement. I believe it is to break in e-lsd (and zero to do with brakes).
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Old 07-22-2018, 11:31 AM   #10
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So I’ve always thought it was 1500 miles for break in period. Then I saw this while looking up something else. Anybody have more info or thoughts on it?
Yeah, the problem is this is just another example of documentation contradictions from GM and Chevy regarding this car. The 2018 owner's manual clearly states the break-in period is 1500 miles, including the 4000 rpm engine restriction (Page 209):

"Follow these recommended guidelines during the first 2414 km (1,500 mi) of driving this vehicle. Parts have a break-in period and performance will be better in the long run.

. Avoid full throttle starts and abrupt stops.
. Do not exceed 4000 engine rpm.
. Avoid driving at any one constant speed, fast or slow.
. Do not drive above 129 km/h (80 mph).
. Avoid downshifting to brake or slow the vehicle when the engine speed will exceed 4000 rpm.
. Do not let the engine labor. Never lug the engine in high gear at low speeds. With a manual transmission, shift to the next lower gear. This rule applies at all times, not just during the break-in period.
. Do not participate in racing events, sport driving schools, or similar activities during this break-in period.
. Check engine oil with every refueling and add if necessary. Oil and fuel consumption may be higher than normal during the first 2414 km (1,500 mi).
. To break in new tires, drive at moderate speeds and avoid hard cornering for the first 322 km (200 mi). New tires do not have maximum traction and may tend to slip.
. New brake linings also need a break-in period. Avoid making hard stops during the first 322 km (200 mi). This is recommended every time brake linings are replaced.
. Should the vehicle be used for racing or competitive driving (after break-in), the rear axle lubricant must be replaced beforehand."
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Old 07-22-2018, 11:33 AM   #11
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I wait till 500 miles to floor my new cars and change the oil. After 500 miles I drive them like I stole them. I did wait 1500 before I tracked it though
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Old 07-22-2018, 11:50 AM   #12
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I wait till 500 miles to floor my new cars and change the oil. After 500 miles I drive them like I stole them. I did wait 1500 before I tracked it though
That sounds about right , but at 1500 miles i had the rear Diff flush and fill and switched to Mobil 1 0W40 for the engine.
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Old 07-22-2018, 01:36 PM   #13
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I am at 2500 miles with 4 trackdays. Changed the oil 3 times and rear diff twice.
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Old 07-30-2018, 06:48 PM   #14
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My tuner (very reputable and experienced) told me that as long as you change the fluids religiously, you should drive it HARD, from the get go and it will make more horsepower down the road. Admittedly a VERY controversial topic...
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