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JSLSlim · 05-05-2015, 11:52 AM

I've been reading a lot about the Vitesse Throttle Controller (VTC) and wondered if anyone would care to comment on whether the VTC could be used by the dealerships/service departments to invalidate a warranty? I currently have a Cold Air Inductions intake and an RX Catch Can and the dealership did not have a problem with those mods...

NYCamOwner · 05-05-2015, 11:55 AM

You have 3 options if they do..
1-Disconnect it and then do the service.
2-Hide the controller out of sight.
3-Disconnect the controller from the junction box, leaving the VTC still active.

ZiG · 05-05-2015, 12:06 PM

If they can reasonably show that it could have caused or contributed to whatever failed or has to be fixed, then yes. Same goes for your other mods.

JSLSlim · 05-05-2015, 01:48 PM

Good feedback! I was unsure if the VTC could be removed in real-time without causing problems. Does anyone know if the VTC leaves any sort of traces in the engine computer?

horizon670 · 05-06-2015, 05:00 PM

No, it doesn't leave any trace on your computer.

stoopid · 05-06-2015, 06:01 PM

Your other mods would be more likely used against you in a warranty claim.

VTSummit · 05-19-2015, 03:45 PM

I'm a service director at a GM dealership- If your car had an issue that appeared to be in the fuel delivery or throttle body etc, we would ask you to unhook the controller so it wouldn't affect the outcome of any testing we do.
Not every dealer is out to bone ya, but it seems that many do it anyway.

05-20-2015, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VTSummit

I'm a service director at a GM dealership- If your car had an issue that appeared to be in the fuel delivery or throttle body etc, we would ask you to unhook the controller so it wouldn't affect the outcome of any testing we do.
Not every dealer is out to bone ya, but it seems that many do it anyway.

You sound like one of the most reasonable dealerships in the world.

NJScorpio · 05-20-2015, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by sbear

You sound like one of the most reasonable dealerships in the world.

Yeah! I wonder how long a drive it would be for me to get my service there!

VTSummit · 05-20-2015, 11:05 AM

We get a lot of people who come here from NY, NJ etc just because we are laid back and honest. Being a gearhead myself, I understand the Magnussen-Moss Act and how mods alter things- and more importantly- how they *don't* alter things.
Only one dude ever got handed his tail and warranty cancelled from me and he came in with an attitude threatening to sue everyone in sight. Not only did his Audi end up blacklisted, I blew his doors off with my R32 afterwards.

If anyone has any concerns about how to troubleshoot from a dealer perspective on a modded car, feel free to contact me.

05-20-2015, 01:28 PM

Added you to my contacts

VTSummit · 05-21-2015, 09:12 AM

Just added a Vitesse TC in my Camaro last night. VERY entertaining mod... makes it feel as if it has more power than it really does.

JSLSlim · 05-21-2015, 11:47 AM

Awesome responses from all. VTSummit, thanks for clearing things up from a dealer perspective, it's Service Managers like you that earn many dealerships their customers' loyalty.

If I end up with this mod, I'll just plan on removing before taking the car in for service.

VTSummit · 05-21-2015, 12:35 PM

Removing it is easy, but just setting it back to 0 would be a good idea if you wanted to leave it in there. Just don't expect the techs or anyone else at the dealer to know what that thing is and how to work it. What they will see is something that can alter their testing.

05-05-2015, 11:52 AM	#1
JSLSlim Drives: 2013 2LT/RS A6 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Fauquier, VA Posts: 140	Vitesse Throttle Controller and Warranty I've been reading a lot about the Vitesse Throttle Controller (VTC) and wondered if anyone would care to comment on whether the VTC could be used by the dealerships/service departments to invalidate a warranty? I currently have a Cold Air Inductions intake and an RX Catch Can and the dealership did not have a problem with those mods... __________________ Dealership selected and Order Placed with Dealer (7/1/2012) 1100 Order Placed at Dealership (7/2/2012) 1102 Order Entered via Web (7/2/2012) 2030 Order Edited by Chevrolet (7/12/2012) 3300 Order Selected and Scheduled for Production by Assembly Plant (8/9/2012 - TPW: 8/20/2012) 3800 Vehicle Produced (8/25/2012) 4B00 Bayed (9/4/2012) 5000 Vehicle Delivered to Dealership (9/18/2012) 6000 Vehicle Delivered to Customer (9/19/2012)

05-05-2015, 11:55 AM	#2
NYCamOwner "Katy" Drives: 2014 2LT A6 'Vert Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Western New York Posts: 1,076 View My Garage	You have 3 options if they do.. 1-Disconnect it and then do the service. 2-Hide the controller out of sight. 3-Disconnect the controller from the junction box, leaving the VTC still active. __________________ 2014 Black 2LT Convertible Elite Engineering Catch Can, Vitesse Throttle Controller, CAI Cold Air Intake Possible next mods: Throttle Body Exhaust Upstate C5 Member No, that is not me in the avatar..... I just love hot girls and hot cars.... or hot girls IN hot cars....

05-05-2015, 12:06 PM	#3
ZiG Drives: 2011 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Alberta Posts: 173	If they can reasonably show that it could have caused or contributed to whatever failed or has to be fixed, then yes. Same goes for your other mods. __________________ 2011 2SS/RS LS3 Rotofab CAI/scoop/washer - FE4 conversion - Pfadt ZL swaybars - BMR endlinks - Hurst short shifter - RKSport spoiler

05-05-2015, 01:48 PM	#4
JSLSlim Drives: 2013 2LT/RS A6 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Fauquier, VA Posts: 140	Good feedback! I was unsure if the VTC could be removed in real-time without causing problems. Does anyone know if the VTC leaves any sort of traces in the engine computer? __________________ Dealership selected and Order Placed with Dealer (7/1/2012) 1100 Order Placed at Dealership (7/2/2012) 1102 Order Entered via Web (7/2/2012) 2030 Order Edited by Chevrolet (7/12/2012) 3300 Order Selected and Scheduled for Production by Assembly Plant (8/9/2012 - TPW: 8/20/2012) 3800 Vehicle Produced (8/25/2012) 4B00 Bayed (9/4/2012) 5000 Vehicle Delivered to Dealership (9/18/2012) 6000 Vehicle Delivered to Customer (9/19/2012)

05-21-2015, 11:47 AM	#13
JSLSlim Drives: 2013 2LT/RS A6 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Fauquier, VA Posts: 140	Awesome responses from all. VTSummit, thanks for clearing things up from a dealer perspective, it's Service Managers like you that earn many dealerships their customers' loyalty. If I end up with this mod, I'll just plan on removing before taking the car in for service. __________________ Dealership selected and Order Placed with Dealer (7/1/2012) 1100 Order Placed at Dealership (7/2/2012) 1102 Order Entered via Web (7/2/2012) 2030 Order Edited by Chevrolet (7/12/2012) 3300 Order Selected and Scheduled for Production by Assembly Plant (8/9/2012 - TPW: 8/20/2012) 3800 Vehicle Produced (8/25/2012) 4B00 Bayed (9/4/2012) 5000 Vehicle Delivered to Dealership (9/18/2012) 6000 Vehicle Delivered to Customer (9/19/2012)

05-06-2015, 05:00 PM	#5
horizon670 Drives: 2010 Chevy Camaro 2LT / RS / Auto Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Rutherford, NJ Posts: 905 View My Garage	No, it doesn't leave any trace on your computer.

05-06-2015, 06:01 PM	#6
stoopid Drives: 4 wheels Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: anyplace, USA Posts: 1,177	Your other mods would be more likely used against you in a warranty claim.

05-19-2015, 03:45 PM	#7
VTSummit Consistently inconsistent Drives: 2015 2LT Summit White Join Date: May 2015 Location: United States Posts: 1,364	I'm a service director at a GM dealership- If your car had an issue that appeared to be in the fuel delivery or throttle body etc, we would ask you to unhook the controller so it wouldn't affect the outcome of any testing we do. Not every dealer is out to bone ya, but it seems that many do it anyway.

05-20-2015, 11:05 AM	#10
VTSummit Consistently inconsistent Drives: 2015 2LT Summit White Join Date: May 2015 Location: United States Posts: 1,364	We get a lot of people who come here from NY, NJ etc just because we are laid back and honest. Being a gearhead myself, I understand the Magnussen-Moss Act and how mods alter things- and more importantly- how they don't alter things. Only one dude ever got handed his tail and warranty cancelled from me and he came in with an attitude threatening to sue everyone in sight. Not only did his Audi end up blacklisted, I blew his doors off with my R32 afterwards. If anyone has any concerns about how to troubleshoot from a dealer perspective on a modded car, feel free to contact me.

05-20-2015, 01:28 PM	#11
sbear Guest Posts: n/a View My Garage	Added you to my contacts

05-21-2015, 09:12 AM	#12
VTSummit Consistently inconsistent Drives: 2015 2LT Summit White Join Date: May 2015 Location: United States Posts: 1,364	Just added a Vitesse TC in my Camaro last night. VERY entertaining mod... makes it feel as if it has more power than it really does.

05-21-2015, 12:35 PM	#14
VTSummit Consistently inconsistent Drives: 2015 2LT Summit White Join Date: May 2015 Location: United States Posts: 1,364	Removing it is easy, but just setting it back to 0 would be a good idea if you wanted to leave it in there. Just don't expect the techs or anyone else at the dealer to know what that thing is and how to work it. What they will see is something that can alter their testing.