Optional 6M Short Shifter

Yellow BB · 06-29-2019, 07:28 PM

Has anyone installed the optional short shifter?
What’s the advantage over the stock shifter?
Is it difficult to install?

6spdhyperblue · 06-29-2019, 08:27 PM

Go hurst

Yellow BB · 06-29-2019, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 6spdhyperblue

Go hurst

Nope, I don’t want to void any warranty & I have a $500 voucher for GM accessories. I just want to know about the Chevrolet short shifter.

Booher · 06-29-2019, 10:17 PM

I believe the gm short throw shifter is only 8% reduced throw, hardly making it worth it. That's why everyone always suggest the Hurst, which is 40% with the ball or 32% with the stock shift knob, I think is what i read. The driveshaft needs to be removed and transmission needs to be lowered a little as well. That's why I haven't bought one yet, lol!

6spdhyperblue · 06-30-2019, 06:43 AM

Hurst will not void warranty. Gm short shifter is barely noticeable. Consensus is that it’s not worth it

Yellow BB · 06-30-2019, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 6spdhyperblue

Hurst will not void warranty. Gm short shifter is barely noticeable. Consensus is that it’s not worth it

I’m a bit confused on the actual purpose of a short shifter. Why is there so much difference between the Hurst & GM? How much of a difference is noticeable over stock?

LT4Greg · 06-30-2019, 09:39 AM

I think that’s the same shifter Chevy puts in the SS 1LE and the ZL1 /ZL1 1LE. If it is then it’s a decent shifter in my opinion and I like the one in my ZL1! The throw is shorter than the one in my gone 2016 SS and it feels better shifting too. If you can deal with the microsuede knob and boot then it would be a good addition to your SS. It would be a pain to install just like the Hurst shifter and for that reason might not be worth the time or money to do. That’s just my opinion but you do what you want because it’s your Camaro!

LT4Greg · 06-30-2019, 09:44 AM

I’m not knocking Hurst shifters either as 3 of my Camaros over the years have had Hurst shifters and I really liked them especially the one I installed in my 2010 2SS! It really did make a difference over the stock shifter and looked good too.

LT4Greg · 06-30-2019, 09:52 AM

Yellow, the throw between the gears is shorter and the shifter gate is not as wide either. Basically you can hit the gears quicker with a short throw shifter especially if you are racing or driving the car fast without fear of missing a gear. It’s hard for me to explain but if you drove a Camaro with either a Hurst shifter or even the GMPP one you could tell and feel the difference over the OEM unit!

LT4Greg · 06-30-2019, 11:16 AM

Or since you have a $500 voucher for GM Accessories then why don’t you consider the GMPP Air Intake system for your SS. I gives a slight increase in hp and sound too and really looks good in the engine compartment! That would be a good mod and wouldn’t void your warranty either. Btw, a Hurst shifter wouldn’t either!

StPeteHyper2.0 · 07-03-2019, 02:45 PM

If you are going to go through the trouble of swapping shifters, then go for the Hurst. Removing driveshaft and lowering transmission is easier than you think. Did it on wheel ramps and Jack stands in a few hours.

Dixie ZL1 · 07-03-2019, 03:10 PM

I installed the Hurst and absolutely love it. Much shorter throw and improved accuracy. Shift effort is slightly greater, but not a big deal. I chose the white ball for nostalgia back to my youth.

I wouldn’t attempt install of any short shifter without a lift. You need to completely remove the exhaust and driveshaft and then tilt the trans down enough to access a couple pins that are a PITA to remove.

Great mod all things considered and it won’t affect your warranty.

Yellow BB · 07-03-2019, 03:19 PM

Thanks for the replies - this mod is officially on the shelf. WAY too much work for what it’s worth. I don’t hate our shifting, I just think it could be much better for a car this sophisticated.

vtirocz · 07-03-2019, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dixie ZL1

I installed the Hurst and absolutely love it. Much shorter throw and improved accuracy. Shift effort is slightly greater, but not a big deal. I chose the white ball for nostalgia back to my youth.

I wouldn’t attempt install of any short shifter without a lift. You need to completely remove the exhaust and driveshaft and then tilt the trans down enough to access a couple pins that are a PITA to remove.

Great mod all things considered and it won’t affect your warranty.

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Originally Posted by Yellow BB

Thanks for the replies - this mod is officially on the shelf. WAY too much work for what it’s worth. I don’t hate our shifting, I just think it could be much better for a car this sophisticated.

A lift would be nice to have, but I installed mine on some wooden ramps in my garage. The install really isn't that bad. I documented in the .pdf file at the bottom of this thread (an edited version of the Hurst instructions). https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showp...7&postcount=14

The Hurst is really nice and minimizes the chances of ever missing a gear (particularly on the 2-3 shift).

I'd recommend checking out a SS 1LE (same as GMPP short shifter) at a dealer to determine if the improvement in shift feel and throw is worth it to you. Don't let the install scare you from moving forward with it though, it really isn't too bad to install on your own.

With that said, if I had a $500 voucher, I think I'd put that toward the GM lowering/handling kit -- see info here: https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=542333

06-29-2019, 07:28 PM	#1
Yellow BB Drives: 2017 Camaro SS 2SS Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: Texas Posts: 50 View My Garage	Optional 6M Short Shifter Has anyone installed the optional short shifter? What’s the advantage over the stock shifter? Is it difficult to install?

06-30-2019, 09:39 AM	#7
LT4Greg Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 Coupe Join Date: May 2016 Location: Georgia Posts: 5,813	I think that’s the same shifter Chevy puts in the SS 1LE and the ZL1 /ZL1 1LE. If it is then it’s a decent shifter in my opinion and I like the one in my ZL1! The throw is shorter than the one in my gone 2016 SS and it feels better shifting too. If you can deal with the microsuede knob and boot then it would be a good addition to your SS. It would be a pain to install just like the Hurst shifter and for that reason might not be worth the time or money to do. That’s just my opinion but you do what you want because it’s your Camaro! __________________ ZL1 Coupe, PDR, Exposed carbon fiber hood insert, My Link with Nav, M6 6 speed and Silver Ice Metallic. Mods done: ceramic window tint, GM Accessories Camaro floor mats and Roto-Fab CAI.

06-30-2019, 09:44 AM	#8
LT4Greg Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 Coupe Join Date: May 2016 Location: Georgia Posts: 5,813	I’m not knocking Hurst shifters either as 3 of my Camaros over the years have had Hurst shifters and I really liked them especially the one I installed in my 2010 2SS! It really did make a difference over the stock shifter and looked good too. __________________ ZL1 Coupe, PDR, Exposed carbon fiber hood insert, My Link with Nav, M6 6 speed and Silver Ice Metallic. Mods done: ceramic window tint, GM Accessories Camaro floor mats and Roto-Fab CAI.

06-30-2019, 09:52 AM	#9
LT4Greg Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 Coupe Join Date: May 2016 Location: Georgia Posts: 5,813	Yellow, the throw between the gears is shorter and the shifter gate is not as wide either. Basically you can hit the gears quicker with a short throw shifter especially if you are racing or driving the car fast without fear of missing a gear. It’s hard for me to explain but if you drove a Camaro with either a Hurst shifter or even the GMPP one you could tell and feel the difference over the OEM unit! __________________ ZL1 Coupe, PDR, Exposed carbon fiber hood insert, My Link with Nav, M6 6 speed and Silver Ice Metallic. Mods done: ceramic window tint, GM Accessories Camaro floor mats and Roto-Fab CAI.

06-30-2019, 11:16 AM	#10
LT4Greg Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 Coupe Join Date: May 2016 Location: Georgia Posts: 5,813	Or since you have a $500 voucher for GM Accessories then why don’t you consider the GMPP Air Intake system for your SS. I gives a slight increase in hp and sound too and really looks good in the engine compartment! That would be a good mod and wouldn’t void your warranty either. Btw, a Hurst shifter wouldn’t either! __________________ ZL1 Coupe, PDR, Exposed carbon fiber hood insert, My Link with Nav, M6 6 speed and Silver Ice Metallic. Mods done: ceramic window tint, GM Accessories Camaro floor mats and Roto-Fab CAI.

06-29-2019, 08:27 PM	#2
6spdhyperblue Drives: 6th gen Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: US Posts: 3,675	Go hurst

06-29-2019, 10:17 PM	#4
Booher Drives: 2019 zl1 6 speed Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Lake Havasu Arizona Posts: 979	I believe the gm short throw shifter is only 8% reduced throw, hardly making it worth it. That's why everyone always suggest the Hurst, which is 40% with the ball or 32% with the stock shift knob, I think is what i read. The driveshaft needs to be removed and transmission needs to be lowered a little as well. That's why I haven't bought one yet, lol!

06-30-2019, 06:43 AM	#5
6spdhyperblue Drives: 6th gen Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: US Posts: 3,675	Hurst will not void warranty. Gm short shifter is barely noticeable. Consensus is that it’s not worth it

07-03-2019, 02:45 PM	#11
StPeteHyper2.0 Drives: '16 Hyper Blue 2.0 Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: St Pete Posts: 238 View My Garage	If you are going to go through the trouble of swapping shifters, then go for the Hurst. Removing driveshaft and lowering transmission is easier than you think. Did it on wheel ramps and Jack stands in a few hours.

07-03-2019, 03:10 PM	#12
Dixie ZL1 NOXQCES ZL1 Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Huntsville AL Posts: 307	I installed the Hurst and absolutely love it. Much shorter throw and improved accuracy. Shift effort is slightly greater, but not a big deal. I chose the white ball for nostalgia back to my youth. I wouldn’t attempt install of any short shifter without a lift. You need to completely remove the exhaust and driveshaft and then tilt the trans down enough to access a couple pins that are a PITA to remove. Great mod all things considered and it won’t affect your warranty. Attached Images

07-03-2019, 03:19 PM	#13
Yellow BB Drives: 2017 Camaro SS 2SS Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: Texas Posts: 50 View My Garage	Thanks for the replies - this mod is officially on the shelf. WAY too much work for what it’s worth. I don’t hate our shifting, I just think it could be much better for a car this sophisticated.

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