11-09-2023, 11:05 AM | #1 |
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Dark horse vs challenger vs Camaro SS
https://youtu.be/BcMiAByzHPE?si=p8Ej2Le15f6gm7e7
Not exactly apples to apples as the dark horse is manual but still fun to see. And no, that Camaro is not a zl1. It’s a 2020+ SS with a zl1 bumper.
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11-09-2023, 11:14 AM | #2 |
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It's too bad, the Camaro is just one of those cars that never really gained the recognition it should have while it was out. I guess it's a good thing for us, definitely going to be a car people look back on in the future and wish they would have bought. Even for a 2016 design it's still competing with the new M2 today on track, and it was better than the BMW for it's entire life. The new M2 is finally the only one that can compare to the Camaro(and that's only if you exclude the price).
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Its still annoying to me that the only way people know how to compare muscle cars is by drag racing them. "Oh wow, the brand new 70k Mustang with 50 more horsepower beat the 8 year old and much cheaper Camaro! Clearly Mustang is king of all muscle cars!"
Meanwhile that brand new Dark Horse can't even beat lap times set by cheaper Camaros years ago and its still not considered as good of a drivers car as the Camaro.
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Just curious but where did you see the dark horse putting out worse lap times than various Camaro versions? I haven’t seen too much track testing of the Dark horse yet aside from the throttle house test where it put out a blistering fast lap.
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And sorry, my comment wasn't against this channel or this video, its just all I am seeing on social media. I get being a fan boy but Ford guys are trying to use a single drag race as the sole factor on why Mustang rules and Camaro sucks and its just odd to see how attached people are to one trick ponies. No pun intended.
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DH has Trofeo RS 180tw tires than cost $2500/set and won't let testers use control tires, even RE71RS, to make the testing fair.
Until a private owner allows fair testing of the DH with control tires, who knows. The time Throttle House set with the car is very impressive regardless, even if it lost 1s because of tires the time is still fast.
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I kept seeing Mustang pages bragging about how much better than a 1LE it is (but with a 20k higher price tag) because of that Throttle House video but when you bring up a comparison against a similar priced ZL1 all of a sudden its "not a fair comparison because the ZL1 has a supercharger" or "doesnt matter cause Camaro is dead lol" I think Ford made an excellent car here, but its not as performance oriented as the Camaro is. Which is fine, it was marketed to be the more livable option that makes an excellent touring car with plenty of performance. Its just not as track focused as the Camaro.
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No wounder why FOMOCO never allowed that their Shelby GT350 and neither their Mach l and now their Dark Horse to be compared against the 6th gen Camaro SS1LE.
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Jason's videos are always good.
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