[Bosse'sBoss]

Originally Posted by DaveC113

I agree, M4 is a higher end car altogether though. The new M2 looks really good despite the initial reactions to it's styling, and costs is similar vs the Supra as well. Personally, I'd go M2 and if I had the cash, the '21 or '22 M2 CS. The one thing holding me back from any modern BMW would be long term cost of ownership. Might be fun to lease, but I prefer to own and keep long term especially with ICE cars being phased out over the next 15 years or so.

American sport muscle cars like the 6th gen Camaro and '11 Mustang GT 5.0 had proven to perform similar even better than BMW M products for much less $$$ and provide better driver's enjoyment: https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2...m3-comparison/ https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2...parison-video/ https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/c...let-camaro-ss/ https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cul...camaro-ss-1le/

[NW-99SS]

Awesome addition Idaho, I'm sure you will enjoy it for all its differences - variety is the spice of life!

I agree with Dave on the 21-22 M2 or M2 CS - that would be my choice of BMW at the moment as well. The M3/M4s have gotten too big, and their newest styling is, well it rivals the Aztech in something only a mother could love.

[bootss]

I wouldn't buy a BMW, but i do appreciate a well made car. They shouldn't have called this car a supra.

That said, the ZL1 is where it's at for me.