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Old 07-20-2019, 11:34 AM   #351
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Also, I think it will be the rare person who will have the self-restraint to buy the $60K base car. The list of options is just too big and tasty to ignore. I'm going to say that most roll out of the door around $75-$80K.

So, in a very Porsche-like manner, the base car is kind of subsidized by people voluntarily adding a bunch of high margin options.
Exactly. The majority of people that are going to purchase a bare bones, bargain basement Stingray are those that have no financial intellect and spend their money very frivolously. There is a huge difference between "being able to afford" and "purchasing". I attempt not to judge, because it is ultimately their money, but to strap yourself over a car (or any materialistic item for that matter) is sheer buffoonery. And remember, this is the BASE MODEL. I waited 3 years before purchasing a C7 because I wanted to see what else GM had to offer. Believe me, GM has several upgraded models already engineered and they'll be trickled out in the future. I'll patiently be waiting to see what they may be and my purchase will be made at that time.
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Old 07-20-2019, 11:41 AM   #352
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Exactly. The majority of people that are going to purchase a bare bones, bargain basement Stingray are those that have no financial intellect and spend their money very frivolously. There is a huge difference between "being able to afford" and "purchasing". I attempt not to judge, because it is ultimately their money, but to strap yourself over a car (or any materialistic item for that matter) is sheer buffoonery. And remember, this is the BASE MODEL. I waited 3 years before purchasing a C7 because I wanted to see what else GM had to offer. Believe me, GM has several upgraded models already engineered and they'll be trickled out in the future. I'll patiently be waiting to see what they may be and my purchase will be made at that time.
I plan on doing the same thing.

The beauty of this situation for me is I LOVE my SS 1LE so waiting for the "better performance version" of the C8, while watching the prices drop and discounts starting to be offered will be easy to do.

So much nicer situation to be in than my previous situation where I couldn't wait to get out of my M3.
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Old 07-20-2019, 11:56 AM   #353
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...From the first post...

Following the reveal, the Next Generation Corvette will hit the road for two national dealership tours that will include vehicle specialists and numerous interactive displays. At these events, Chevy dealers will host customers to showcase the new mid-engine supercar, display customizable parts (seats, wheels, accessories, etc.) and teach people how they can personalize their own Corvette.

“With all the excitement around this vehicle, we don’t want people to have to wait to experience it in person,” said Engle. “Our national tours will bring the Next Generation car right to our customers’ local Chevrolet dealership, where they can start imagining themselves in their very own personalized mid-engine Corvette.”

The tours will begin on the East and West Coasts and stop at more than 125 select dealerships across the U.S. starting after the reveal and extending through early 2020.

"Tour dates and cities will be available starting on July 19.
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Is there any info yet on the dates and cities, etc.? I can't find any info. Thanks.
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Old 07-20-2019, 08:21 PM   #354
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Old 07-21-2019, 07:24 PM   #355
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2 0 2 0 C O R V E T T E S T I N G R A Y

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PAINT COLOR - Long Beach Red Metallic Tintcoat • ROOF - Body Color•

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Old 07-22-2019, 10:14 AM   #356
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This transmission...."a manual that shifts like an automatic"...or whatever...

Does this mean that Adaptive Cruise Control cannot be available?

What about Start/Stop?

Did not see any specific info one way or the other....The pics of the steering wheel buttons look like old fashioned cruise-control....just wondering....
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Old 07-22-2019, 11:26 AM   #357
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This transmission...."a manual that shifts like an automatic"...or whatever...

Does this mean that Adaptive Cruise Control cannot be available?

What about Start/Stop?

Did not see any specific info one way or the other....The pics of the steering wheel buttons look like old fashioned cruise-control....just wondering....
They way that DCTs work makes them essentially automated manuals (instead of manualized automatics). If it helps, picture a robot working a stick shift. Thats not accurate, but its a better representation than a traditional torque converter auto that you can take control of.



Anyway, since it can operate fully automatically, there is no reason why adaptive cruise or start/stop (or remote engine start) couldn't be used with it. In fact, I'm sure that such features are pretty common on DCT equipped cars.
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Old 07-22-2019, 01:32 PM   #358
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They way that DCTs work makes them essentially automated manuals (instead of manualized automatics). If it helps, picture a robot working a stick shift. Thats not accurate, but its a better representation than a traditional torque converter auto that you can take control of.



Anyway, since it can operate fully automatically, there is no reason why adaptive cruise or start/stop (or remote engine start) couldn't be used with it. In fact, I'm sure that such features are pretty common on DCT equipped cars.
Also worth mentioning that Stop Start began in Europe with manual transmission cars.. Hard to find a modern MT car in Europe without it. Developing it for AT was a PITA because of the need to keep the transmission pressurized and in gear with the engine off, as well as the need to manage what happens when the engine starts shutting down, but the driver changes their mind (light changes from red to green).
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Old 07-22-2019, 02:09 PM   #359
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Developing it for AT was a PITA because of the need to keep the transmission pressurized and in gear with the engine off, as well as the need to manage what happens when the engine starts shutting down, but the driver changes their mind (light changes from red to green).
Sounds like it's more trouble than it's worth.
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Sounds like it's more trouble than it's worth.
The pressure thing was probably pretty easy to sort out. Accounting for people? Well, its pretty easy to come up with something that covers most of the things people do most of the time ... its those others the rest of the time that are a devil to deal with. Engineers don't like them very much.



Beyond that, improving city fuel economy by 10ish percent is not nothing. If you live in a city, or have a heavily congested commute, that can save you quite a bit of gas. On the other hand, on a car that only gets taken out at 6am on a Saturday mornings just for a quick cruise around the countryside before getting garaged for another week or two ... it's not going to do much for you.
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Old 07-22-2019, 04:15 PM   #361
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I wish they would have stuck with the Goodyear F1 SC3 tires with the C8. It does amazing with the ZL1 and SS 1LE.

I think it is a better tire over the Michelins. Not sure why they put Michelins on the Corvette and Goodyears on the Camaro
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Old 07-23-2019, 08:47 AM   #362
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I wish they would have stuck with the Goodyear F1 SC3 tires with the C8. It does amazing with the ZL1 and SS 1LE.

I think it is a better tire over the Michelins. Not sure why they put Michelins on the Corvette and Goodyears on the Camaro
The Corvette has never come with SC3s. They've had Michelin exclusively since the C7 was launched.

GM works with manufacturers to design the tires for the car. There's a reason they went with Michelin over Good Year. Could be their relationship with the race team. Could just be that they feel the michelins are better on the Corvette. I'm just glad they're finally offering an all season performance tire for Corvette.
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Old 07-23-2019, 10:36 AM   #363
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shadow gray. they must be on a mission to show off all the colors
Nice, just saw a blacked out one(the same one spotted already) on Pontiac Trial. Looks cool but hides some of the lines a bit.
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I found this on https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...play-locations
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July 18th and 19th: Tustin, CA (by GM & NCM invite only)

July 22nd and 23rd: San Diego, Bob Stall Chevrolet

July 26th and 27th: Kerbeck Corvette, Atlantic City

July 29th: Fairway Chevrolet, Hazelton, PA

July 27/28th: Concours d’Elegance of America, Plymouth, MI

August 1st/2nd: Connell Chevrolet in Orange County, CA

August 7th: MacMulkin Chevrolet, Nashua, NH

August 22-25: Corvettes At Carlisle, Carlisle, PA

August 29-31: National Corvette Museum, Bowling Green, KY

Sept. 4th: Coughlin Chevrolet, Patascala, OH

Sept. 14th: Rydell Chevrolet, Northridge, CA

Sept 19-22: Corvette Funfest, Effingham, IL

Oct 26th: Classic Chev, Grapevine, TX

Nov. 21st; Saxe Chevrolet, Belle Plaine, MN

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