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Old 11-04-2016, 11:10 AM   #1
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JANNETTY RACING INDEPENDENT TESTING, ARH, ROTOFAB, MSD RESULTS

First I must thank Fraxum for volunteering his car for this project.

Also, Thanks To ARH for providing the 2 inch headers for testing.

Note; all testing is done under extremely tight controlled conditions and procedures developed over the last 30 years running dyno tests, using the Superflow SF-840 Twin Eddy current load bearing dyno that I have owned and operated for the last 14 years

Every run is data logged, ECT, IAT, and Oil temps are stabilized, and weather station is correcting for conditions.

The results are inarguable, accurate and repeatable.

Test 1 2016 Camaro SS LT-1 M6 STOCK 7600 miles on Odometer running Mobil 93 octane. 429 RWHP 436 RWTQ represented by the black lines in all of the dyno graphs.

Everything from this point forward will be called Stock VS referencing these base numbers.

Test 2 STOCK VS ROTOFAB DRY. 435 RWHP 438 RWTQ

Peak to peak gains are +6 RWHP + 3 RWTQ

Delta gains are + 6 RWHP +5 RWTQ

All gains are above 4400 RPM which is what we expected since the stock air box is so good.



Test 3 STOCK VS MSD ATOMIC W ROTOFAB DRY. 445 RWHP 435 RWTQ

Peak to Peak gains +16 RWHP -1 RWTQ

Delta Gains 31 RWHP 26 RWTQ AT 6350 RPM

All gains are above 5000 RPM with a loss at 3800 RPM



Test 4 STOCK VS MSD ATOMIC W STOCK AIR BOX 442 RWHP 435 RWTQ

Peak to Peak +13 RWHP -.5 RWTQ

Delta Gains +25 RWHP +23 at 6350 rpm

All gain are above 5000 RPM with a loss at 3800



Test 5 STOCK vs ARH 1 7/8 LT W CATS LONG SYSTEM TO STOCK MUFFLER WITH NPP, MSD ATOMIC AND STOCK AIR BOX 456 RWHP 448 RWTQ.

NOTE. I had already tested the headers on a stock car so it was pointless to repeat that testing this test shows how much the headers compliment the MSD intake.

Peak to Peak gains 27 RWHP 12 RWTQ

Delta gains + 40 RWHP +33 RWTQ AT 6350 RPM



TEST 6 STOCK vs ARH 1 7/8 LT W CATS TO STOCK MUFFLER, MSD ATOMIC AND ROTOFAB DRY. 460 RWHP 446 RWTQ

Peak to Peak gains 31 RWHP 11 RWTQ

Delta gains +46 RWHP +31 RWTQ



Final test 7 STOCK VS ARH 2 INCH LT W CATS TO STOCK MUFFLER, MSD ATOMIC, ROTOFAB DRY. 459 RWHP 444 RWTQ

Peak to Peak gains +30 RWHP + 9 RWTQ.

Delta Gains +45 RWHP + 29 RWTQ.



All though the 2 inch headers did not matched the 1 7/8 LT from 2200 to 6000 RPM the 2 inch headers did make more power from 6000 to Rev limit.

I can see the 2 inch Headers having the advantage with Cam and Forced induction.

Graph for discussion Stock VS 1 7/8 vs 2 inch LT




Any questions post them here and I will address them.

Our power Packages will be built off of this information and tuning developed during this process.
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Old 11-04-2016, 11:21 AM   #2
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nice to see your dyno pretty much confirms my SOTP dyno. great work and many thanks.

My current mods: green filter, mod air box, front cat bypass, mild tune, MSD.
I've also had Mishimoto CAI and CAI CAI.

Ted what is your gut feeling of the:
1 and 7/8 header + cats vs Hooker Tri-Y and front cat bypass, offroad pipe on a stock longblock?
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Old 11-04-2016, 11:23 AM   #3
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Awesome, thanks for all the hard work and posting up.

Did you see any gains with the RF from the wet filter to the dry filter?
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Old 11-04-2016, 11:26 AM   #4
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nice to see your dyno pretty much confirms my SOTP dyno. great work and many thanks.

My current mods: green filter, mod air box, front cat bypass, mild tune, MSD.
I've also had Mishimoto CAI and CAI CAI.

Ted what is your gut feeling of the:
1 and 7/8 header + cats vs Hooker Tri-Y and front cat bypass, offroad pipe on a stock longblock?
Since the car comes with Tri-Y headers already you can see the differences.

LT have the advantage in all cases.
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Old 11-04-2016, 11:28 AM   #5
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Ted,

Thanks for the hard work and long hours you put into this comparison. Generally speaking, how did the Roto-fab dry filter system compare to other 2016 air intakes you have tested?

Thanks again!
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Old 11-04-2016, 11:33 AM   #6
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Awesome, thanks for all the hard work and posting up.

Did you see any gains with the RF from the wet filter to the dry filter?
Understand that GM pulled out all the stops when they designed this air box for the stock engine so the Aftermarket companies have they hands full to find any power on the stock engine.

As your build progresses the gains will be better and better with the aftermarket intakes.

The dry filter did the best.

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Ted,

Thanks for the hard work and long hours you put into this comparison. Generally speaking, how did the Roto-fab dry filter system compare to other 2016 air intakes you have tested?

Thanks again!
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For daily driver street use I would recommend the Oiled filter for racing I would recommend the Dry filter.

The Dry filter was about 3-4 HP better.
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Understand that GM pulled out all the stops when they designed this air box for the stock engine so the Aftermarket companies have they hands full to find any power on the stock engine.

As your build progresses the gains will be better and better with the aftermarket intakes.

The dry filter did the best.

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Absolutely.

I am testing the Dry filter Saturday but have a LT4 blower on the shelf that will go on soon. GM did do a good job with the stocker as you stated. I know there will be huge gains with the blower.

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Tell Fraxum to throw in a cam and test again
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Old 11-04-2016, 12:01 PM   #10
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Ted excellent work! This is exactly what the community needs. Now can you go get E85 tested before lunch is over?
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For daily driver street use I would recommend the Oiled filter for racing I would recommend the Dry filter.

The Dry filter was about 3-4 HP better.
Interesting! Thanks again for your efforts.

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Old 11-04-2016, 12:04 PM   #12
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Ted excellent work! This is exactly what the community needs. Now can you go get E85 tested before lunch is over?
Thanks, funny you say that the Flex fuel kit showed up today.

Unfortunately we don't have E-85 available in this state and the dyno is booked today.

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Old 11-04-2016, 01:56 PM   #13
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Thanks for doing this Ted couple questions, did you have a dyno graph of 1 7/8 ARH on stock motor only. Also being the stock air box is so good, what are your thoughts on just using a drop in k&n oiled filter ?
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Thank you for doing this, some of these results are surprising....especially the mid range torque loss with the MSD of around 30? from 3700 to 4100 rpm, I know you are mostly above 4k at the strip but that seems like a significant amount of power that is lost. How much do you think that offsets the gains ?

Its a shame Fraxam didn't fill up a 5 gallon jug of e85 and bring it with him, it would have been great to see those results.

GM hit it out of the park with this car it seems.
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