[Mark114]

A new patent from GM could mean your next clutch pedal is a digital one.

https://www.gminsidenews.com/article...ual-trans-fun/

[TJay74]

Wow, less mechanical but in trade using electronics. It would eliminate the clutch fluid if they moved to a direct mount electronic system.

[Frankie18SS]

Wow! The possibilities are intriguing.

[glenB]

That could be cool

[Gunkk]

Originally Posted by Frankie18SS

Wow! The possibilities are intriguing.

Launch control without the bog? Check!
Automatic clutching with just shift lever input? Check!
M6's as fast as (and maybe even faster than) A10's? Check!

[Cmax]

Originally Posted by Frankie18SS

Wow! The possibilities are intriguing.

Lol...I shudder to think of the possibilities.... come on, that’s funny!

[fastball]

This is a key step in keeping manuals available for the enthusiasts. There’ve been discussions about electronically shifted manuals with three pedals that shift the transmission manually electronically. So the gear shift is electronic even though it’s the standard shift pattern of a standard manual. This would enable companies to use the same transmission for manuals and automatics, cutting down on production costs and EPA certifications yet keeping us old “get off my lawn” curmudgeons who refuse to own an automatic happy

[motorhead]

Drive by wire clutch should allow for the third peddal to be gone. No?

So we end up with a true manual that can be put in automatic mode. How cool would that be.

Im game.

[CamaroFred]

Originally Posted by motorhead

Drive by wire clutch should allow for the third peddal to be gone. No?

So we end up with a true manual that can be put in automatic mode. How cool would that be.

Im game.

What fun would that be? How are you going to rev it up and pop the clutch. Or ride the clutch to keep the revs up as you hunt for traction? Where would your 4th to 2nd shift go? Could you start in 3rd just to mess with the ricer next to you?
Damn, the clutch is 2/3 the fun of a stick shift.
You aren't tied to a stall speed, every time you let out the clutch the driver determines the stall.

A manual driver shifts how he wants, when he wants. Smooth when mom is in the car, smack it and drop the clutch when dad wants to chirp the tires.

Recently I drove my mom into the city. We were in the car for ~30 minutes of stop and go. When stopped first in line at a red someone pulled up on my right in the bus lane, hoping to beat me off the line. I wasted him and my mom smiled and said, "Oh, you have a manual transmission." It made me proud that she hadn't noticed sooner.

And the point of this story is that with a manual every time you start, shift, stop, it is up to the driver to determine the driving characteristics. Not some computer programmed by a corporation. It is freedom.

BTW, you all can walk on my lawn, as long as you don't leave any trash.

[Joel2702zzz]

Originally Posted by CamaroFred

What fun would that be? How are you going to rev it up and pop the clutch. Or ride the clutch to keep the revs up as you hunt for traction? Where would your 4th to 2nd shift go? Could you start in 3rd just to mess with the ricer next to you?
Damn, the clutch is 2/3 the fun of a stick shift.
You aren't tied to a stall speed, every time you let out the clutch the driver determines the stall.

A manual driver shifts how he wants, when he wants. Smooth when mom is in the car, smack it and drop the clutch when dad wants to chirp the tires.

Recently I drove my mom into the city. We were in the car for ~30 minutes of stop and go. When stopped first in line at a red someone pulled up on my right in the bus lane, hoping to beat me off the line. I wasted him and my mom smiled and said, "Oh, you have a manual transmission." It made me proud that she hadn't noticed sooner.

And the point of this story is that with a manual every time you start, shift, stop, it is up to the driver to determine the driving characteristics. Not some computer programmed by a corporation. It is freedom.

BTW, you all can walk on my lawn, as long as you don't leave any trash.

I have to say; your comment is quite possibly one of the best ever.

[Frankie18SS]

Originally Posted by Cmax

Lol...I shudder to think of the possibilities.... come on, that’s funny!

[Timbo-1LE]

Mid engine corvette?

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by CamaroFred

What fun would that be? How are you going to rev it up and pop the clutch. Or ride the clutch to keep the revs up as you hunt for traction? Where would your 4th to 2nd shift go? Could you start in 3rd just to mess with the ricer next to you?
Damn, the clutch is 2/3 the fun of a stick shift.
You aren't tied to a stall speed, every time you let out the clutch the driver determines the stall.

A manual driver shifts how he wants, when he wants. Smooth when mom is in the car, smack it and drop the clutch when dad wants to chirp the tires.

Recently I drove my mom into the city. We were in the car for ~30 minutes of stop and go. When stopped first in line at a red someone pulled up on my right in the bus lane, hoping to beat me off the line. I wasted him and my mom smiled and said, "Oh, you have a manual transmission." It made me proud that she hadn't noticed sooner.

And the point of this story is that with a manual every time you start, shift, stop, it is up to the driver to determine the driving characteristics. Not some computer programmed by a corporation. It is freedom.

BTW, you all can walk on my lawn, as long as you don't leave any trash.

You have a great reply that I cant argue with. However, ive had so many manuals over the years that gear jamming doesnt really do it for me anymore. I still have a couple of manual cars ,and while they are fun , they get old after awhile. My comment was being selfish. How about a compromise? We keep the third pedal and have a min of three modes. Full manual(this allows for everything in your reply), semimanual(allows for manual shifting without the clutch including from a stop), then full automatic.

Wouldn't that be cool?

[97cavy22]

Maybe I’m old fashioned but I’d prefer a true manual like every car I’ve owned. Then again if this type of setup is what will keep a manual alive than it’s better than no clutch pedal.