Windows Down = Unbearable Wind Buffeting/Percussion - Page 2

Deputy Dog · 03-25-2019, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 19Shadow1LE

Does anyone else experience extreme wind buffeting with both windows down at ~40+ mph? It's even worse with one window down, but I never do that.
I have experienced this effect in sedans with only the back windows down, but it's easily resolved by lowering the front windows.

I've owned a 1997 Camaro, 2000 Corvette, and 2003 Cobra, and have NEVER experienced wind buffeting with the windows down.

Are there any good solutions to this problem? I don't have a sunroof to open so that's not an option.

No..not me. One window all the way up and one down yes. Both down...not at all.

cellsafemode · 03-25-2019, 11:23 AM

so it sounds like where your head is in relation to the window really matters, because the shape and size of the car and the speeds are all basically the same and unless people are just flat out lying, the only variable is seat/head position (aside from sunroofs, which I'd assume we'd all assuming is closed if equipped since the OP didn't mention having one open).

DenverTaco07 · 03-25-2019, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cellsafemode

so it sounds like where your head is in relation to the window really matters, because the shape and size of the car and the speeds are all basically the same and unless people are just flat out lying, the only variable is seat/head position (aside from sunroofs, which I'd assume we'd all assuming is closed if equipped since the OP didn't mention having one open).

My understanding is that many cars modern cars have this issue because aerodynamics have improved so much that when the window is opened it presents interference in the...

oh here, read this:

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a1...ne-car-window/

https://jalopnik.com/why-do-slightly...oun-1447498738

basically it happens more now "because racecar".

CrazyCatGuy · 03-25-2019, 01:52 PM

I had obnoxious buffeting in my Golf R, but I have not once had this issue in my 1LE. I drive with my driver window down and the passenger up all the time since my son is in the back seat and I don't want him getting cold.

DaveC113 · 03-25-2019, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cellsafemode

so it sounds like where your head is in relation to the window really matters, because the shape and size of the car and the speeds are all basically the same and unless people are just flat out lying, the only variable is seat/head position (aside from sunroofs, which I'd assume we'd all assuming is closed if equipped since the OP didn't mention having one open).

Maybe, but I'd guess it's local wind conditions. I get much more buffeting with side winds, but on a calm day it's not an issue besides the seatbelts flapping around.

KirkH · 03-25-2019, 05:21 PM

There’s been several threads on this forum about this problem. One of them has a great scientific explanation. And yes all new aerodynamic cars will have this effect with the right conditions.

z28pat · 03-25-2019, 07:24 PM

I’ve felt it , and it’s odd because the windows are tiny in the 6th gen. I have gone way faster in my 4th gen with the t tops off and didn’t feel anything close to it, maybe because the windows are so big in comparison.

mdhopt36 · 03-25-2019, 07:30 PM

Yep, definitely happens with driver window down, but can't recall if it does with 2 down.

Gunkk · 03-25-2019, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KirkH

There’s been several threads on this forum about this problem. One of them has a great scientific explanation. And yes all new aerodynamic cars will have this effect with the right conditions.

Yes it's called Helmhotz resonance and is the exact same physics as when you blow over the top of a beer bottle.

The bigger the volume, the lower the resonant frequency...

I`m Batman · 03-25-2019, 07:44 PM

Did you roll the windows all the way down? I don't have that problem if they're BOTH are ALL the way down.

dpevans · 03-26-2019, 07:45 AM

It's gets pretty bad at highway speeds. Not sure why they cannot make a vent to relieve the back glass pressure and exhaust it out the rear quarters. it would make the ride so much more enjoyable to be able to ride at 70 with the windows down.

R3ctivision · 11-10-2020, 01:04 PM

Bumping an old thread. This issue is extremely annoying for me on the track. I get up to 140 mph with windows down (required by track rules, ARGH) and the buffeting is extreme. Has anyone come up with a solution (even if tacky) to mitigate this? Maybe some of those rain deflectors would help me at the track?

Invertalon · 11-10-2020, 01:13 PM

I don't know of any car that doesn't do that... My girlfriends Mazda 3 does it, my 2018 Camry does it and my friends Tundra as well. Plus any other car I can think of, I always have to crack a second window to remove the wind buffeting.

RyanR623 · 11-10-2020, 01:32 PM

Never for me even on the highway. Don't know why. My wrangler though.... holy shit. It felt like my ear drums were pulsating. It's usually caused by variations in pressure, which is why opening the back windows slightly as well gets rid of. But that's a moot point for us LOLOL.

Still, opening both windows should help.

03-25-2019, 01:52 PM	#18
CrazyCatGuy I'm the cats pajamas baby Drives: 2018 Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: East Bay Area Posts: 150	I had obnoxious buffeting in my Golf R, but I have not once had this issue in my 1LE. I drive with my driver window down and the passenger up all the time since my son is in the back seat and I don't want him getting cold. __________________

03-25-2019, 05:21 PM	#20
KirkH Drives: 2016 2SS M6 Mosaic Blk Met-SOLD Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: KY Posts: 2,934	There’s been several threads on this forum about this problem. One of them has a great scientific explanation. And yes all new aerodynamic cars will have this effect with the right conditions. __________________ Official Detailer of CamaroFest 8 & 9 https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...st-8-pics.html https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showt...=521655&page=1 https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showt...=547470&page=1 https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=527474 No one on Earth has detailed more Camaros. http://KirkTheDetailer.com

11-10-2020, 01:04 PM	#26
R3ctivision 1LE Convert Drives: 2018 ZLE Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Mountain View, CA Posts: 367	Bumping an old thread. This issue is extremely annoying for me on the track. I get up to 140 mph with windows down (required by track rules, ARGH) and the buffeting is extreme. Has anyone come up with a solution (even if tacky) to mitigate this? Maybe some of those rain deflectors would help me at the track? __________________ 2018 Camaro ZL1 1LE (Red Hot) 2002 BMW Spec E46 race car (Lizard Green) Previous cars: - 2018 Miata RF GT (Machine Gray/Auburn) - 2017 Camaro 1SS 1LE (Summit White) - 2008 BMW 135i (Montego Blue) - 1996 BMW 328i (Arctic Silver)

03-25-2019, 11:23 AM	#16
cellsafemode Drives: 2016 Camaro 1LT Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: California Posts: 3,491	so it sounds like where your head is in relation to the window really matters, because the shape and size of the car and the speeds are all basically the same and unless people are just flat out lying, the only variable is seat/head position (aside from sunroofs, which I'd assume we'd all assuming is closed if equipped since the OP didn't mention having one open).

03-25-2019, 07:24 PM	#21
z28pat Drives: 2002 z28, 2018 2ss 1LE Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Parrish, Florida Posts: 835	I’ve felt it , and it’s odd because the windows are tiny in the 6th gen. I have gone way faster in my 4th gen with the t tops off and didn’t feel anything close to it, maybe because the windows are so big in comparison.

03-25-2019, 07:30 PM	#22
mdhopt36 Drives: '17- 1ag37 V6 traded, for 1SS 2018! Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: MA Posts: 469	Yep, definitely happens with driver window down, but can't recall if it does with 2 down.

03-25-2019, 07:44 PM	#24
I`m Batman Drives: 2016 Camaro SS M6 Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Colorado Posts: 393	Did you roll the windows all the way down? I don't have that problem if they're BOTH are ALL the way down.

03-26-2019, 07:45 AM	#25
dpevans Drives: 2024 Riverside Blue 2SS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Fort Wayne, IN Posts: 1,208	It's gets pretty bad at highway speeds. Not sure why they cannot make a vent to relieve the back glass pressure and exhaust it out the rear quarters. it would make the ride so much more enjoyable to be able to ride at 70 with the windows down.

11-10-2020, 01:13 PM	#27
Invertalon Drives: 2021 2SS Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: Cleveland Posts: 299	I don't know of any car that doesn't do that... My girlfriends Mazda 3 does it, my 2018 Camry does it and my friends Tundra as well. Plus any other car I can think of, I always have to crack a second window to remove the wind buffeting.

11-10-2020, 01:32 PM	#28
RyanR623 Drives: SS A8, NPP, Red Hot Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Toledo, OH Posts: 583	Never for me even on the highway. Don't know why. My wrangler though.... holy shit. It felt like my ear drums were pulsating. It's usually caused by variations in pressure, which is why opening the back windows slightly as well gets rid of. But that's a moot point for us LOLOL. Still, opening both windows should help.

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