Best way to drop IAT's w/ Whipple Installed

Nmolina9239 · 07-14-2019, 09:54 PM

Hey guys, whats everyone doing to lower there IAT temps for both daily driving and at the track?

camaro14FASSTSS · 07-15-2019, 09:37 AM

Simple. Add Water Wetter product to both, the Whipple intercooler and radiator. I have whipple running 757rwhp on E85 and never runs hot.

KingLT1 · 07-15-2019, 10:01 AM

^ Agreed. I drove mine yesterday for a couple hours in 90 degree weather. IAT's were in the low 120's engine coolant 172. No timing pull.

Jhunsberger · 07-15-2019, 11:54 AM

Wish mine ran a little cooler, I am usually in the 130's pushing 140 when driving around in 90 deg weather. I have water wetter in both, and have a fab over ride switch. Actually i think engine coolant temp is around 180, i will have to see on my way home from work today.

Dysan911 · 07-15-2019, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jhunsberger

Wish mine ran a little cooler, I am usually in the 130's pushing 140 when driving around in 90 deg weather. I have water wetter in both, and have a fab over ride switch. Actually i think engine coolant temp is around 180, i will have to see on my way home from work today.

Wouldn't you benefit from say a 160 thermo and have your fans programmed to kick on sooner?

KingLT1 · 07-15-2019, 12:41 PM

Yea I would think so. I have a 160 Tstat and have my fans set to start ramping in 13% @ 170, 33% @ 180, 66% @ 190, 92% @ 210.

Jhunsberger · 07-15-2019, 01:49 PM

I did replace it with the new one that came with the whipple. Do you know which one comes with the kit?

KingLT1 · 07-15-2019, 03:17 PM

I used the one that came with the Whipple as well. It's likely your fan adjustments in the tune. Need to set desired temp to 160 then scale the fan on percentage accordingly. Your car will run 10 degrees cooler.

Jhunsberger · 07-15-2019, 03:20 PM

Roger that, thank you!

Nmolina9239 · 07-15-2019, 06:39 PM

I'm on the same boat in regards to using the Water Wetter on both loops. I also am using the 160F tstat that came with the Whipple. I dont drive the car much but I did this past weekend to a car show and my IAT was hovering at 140ish while cruising. Ambient was about 110ish as we are in the usual heat wave here in Kansas.

Joshinator99 · 07-15-2019, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by camaro14FASSTSS

Simple. Add Water Wetter product to both, the Whipple intercooler and radiator. I have whipple running 757rwhp on E85 and never runs hot.

Water wetter here too, but I lowered the glycol concentration on the intercooler loop to about 25% (and 75% water) since my car never sees freezing weather. The heat transfer improves by using less glycol. Katech 160 TS, 180 degree ECT setpoint and fans ramp on at 173 to full 100% by 200 degree ECT. I ran 3 hours on the dyno and saw max IAT of 137 on a VERY humid, 85 degree day. Didn’t think that was bad.

Nmolina9239 · 07-15-2019, 07:09 PM

What is considered too high or bad though? I honestly haven't logged a tune to specifically eye that but I will go back and look at some old ones. Is too high when timing is being pulled back?

JANNETTYRACING · 07-16-2019, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Nmolina9239

What is considered too high or bad though? I honestly haven't logged a tune to specifically eye that but I will go back and look at some old ones. Is too high when timing is being pulled back?

Whipple in your setup does not have an IAT problem unless something is wrong like a bad pump or low coolant level.

Pulling timing when IAT goes up past 140F protects the engine from damage.

Call me with any questions.

Ted.

Nmolina9239 · 07-16-2019, 07:24 PM

Hey Ted, I am not having any issues with the vehicle at all. I was more just trying to get educated on whats considered good versus bad.

07-14-2019, 09:54 PM	#1
Nmolina9239 Drives: 2018 2SS Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Niverville, NY Posts: 117	Best way to drop IAT's w/ Whipple Installed Hey guys, whats everyone doing to lower there IAT temps for both daily driving and at the track? __________________ 2018 Camaro, Whipple Charged, RotoFab Big Gulp, Katech 103mm, LT4 Fueling w/ JMS BAP, GPI Drop in Rods and Pistons, Custom Cam, Ported Heads, Kooks LTHs w/ Green Cats and Mid Pipes, Corsa Extreme Mufflers, DSS Driveshaft & CV Shafts, Might Mouse Catch Can, Circle D T.C. #Team GPI

07-15-2019, 10:01 AM	#3
KingLT1 Drives: 2016 1SS NFG A8 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: 46804 Posts: 6,797	^ Agreed. I drove mine yesterday for a couple hours in 90 degree weather. IAT's were in the low 120's engine coolant 172. No timing pull. __________________ 2016 NFG 1SS A8 Options-2SS Leather/NPP Perf. mods-Whipple 2.9/Fuel System/Flex Fuel/103mm TB/Rotofab Big Gulp/Cat Deletes/Corsa NPP Per. times- 10.5 @ 137 w/ 1.8 60ft Full weight on 20's 1200DA

07-15-2019, 11:54 AM	#4
Jhunsberger Drives: 2017 Camaro 1SS M6 (SOLD) Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: 19518 Posts: 402	Wish mine ran a little cooler, I am usually in the 130's pushing 140 when driving around in 90 deg weather. I have water wetter in both, and have a fab over ride switch. Actually i think engine coolant temp is around 180, i will have to see on my way home from work today. __________________ 2017 1SS M6 Hyper Blue Metallic NPP, MMR 228 Z/28 replica wheels, Front: 20 x 9, Rear 20 x 11 Stock: 416hp/427tq, 12.21 @ 116.80 Modified 02/2019: Whipple SC w/ 3.500 pulley, LT4 fueling, NW 103 TB, Roto-Fab Big Gulp, Kooks 2" jet coated, full Borla ATAK exhaust, DSS axles, Gforce driveshaft. Tuned by EFX Tuning 688hp/632tq Best 1/4 to date: 10.705 @ 131.92

07-15-2019, 12:41 PM	#6
KingLT1 Drives: 2016 1SS NFG A8 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: 46804 Posts: 6,797	Yea I would think so. I have a 160 Tstat and have my fans set to start ramping in 13% @ 170, 33% @ 180, 66% @ 190, 92% @ 210. __________________ 2016 NFG 1SS A8 Options-2SS Leather/NPP Perf. mods-Whipple 2.9/Fuel System/Flex Fuel/103mm TB/Rotofab Big Gulp/Cat Deletes/Corsa NPP Per. times- 10.5 @ 137 w/ 1.8 60ft Full weight on 20's 1200DA

07-15-2019, 01:49 PM	#7
Jhunsberger Drives: 2017 Camaro 1SS M6 (SOLD) Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: 19518 Posts: 402	I did replace it with the new one that came with the whipple. Do you know which one comes with the kit? __________________ 2017 1SS M6 Hyper Blue Metallic NPP, MMR 228 Z/28 replica wheels, Front: 20 x 9, Rear 20 x 11 Stock: 416hp/427tq, 12.21 @ 116.80 Modified 02/2019: Whipple SC w/ 3.500 pulley, LT4 fueling, NW 103 TB, Roto-Fab Big Gulp, Kooks 2" jet coated, full Borla ATAK exhaust, DSS axles, Gforce driveshaft. Tuned by EFX Tuning 688hp/632tq Best 1/4 to date: 10.705 @ 131.92

07-15-2019, 09:37 AM	#2
camaro14FASSTSS RichCam14 Drives: 2014 Chevy Camaro 2SS 1LE Join Date: May 2019 Location: Mundelein, IL Posts: 4	Simple. Add Water Wetter product to both, the Whipple intercooler and radiator. I have whipple running 757rwhp on E85 and never runs hot.

07-15-2019, 03:17 PM	#8
KingLT1 Drives: 2016 1SS NFG A8 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: 46804 Posts: 6,797	I used the one that came with the Whipple as well. It's likely your fan adjustments in the tune. Need to set desired temp to 160 then scale the fan on percentage accordingly. Your car will run 10 degrees cooler. __________________ 2016 NFG 1SS A8 Options-2SS Leather/NPP Perf. mods-Whipple 2.9/Fuel System/Flex Fuel/103mm TB/Rotofab Big Gulp/Cat Deletes/Corsa NPP Per. times- 10.5 @ 137 w/ 1.8 60ft Full weight on 20's 1200DA

07-15-2019, 03:20 PM	#9
Jhunsberger Drives: 2017 Camaro 1SS M6 (SOLD) Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: 19518 Posts: 402	Roger that, thank you! __________________ 2017 1SS M6 Hyper Blue Metallic NPP, MMR 228 Z/28 replica wheels, Front: 20 x 9, Rear 20 x 11 Stock: 416hp/427tq, 12.21 @ 116.80 Modified 02/2019: Whipple SC w/ 3.500 pulley, LT4 fueling, NW 103 TB, Roto-Fab Big Gulp, Kooks 2" jet coated, full Borla ATAK exhaust, DSS axles, Gforce driveshaft. Tuned by EFX Tuning 688hp/632tq Best 1/4 to date: 10.705 @ 131.92

07-15-2019, 06:39 PM	#10
Nmolina9239 Drives: 2018 2SS Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Niverville, NY Posts: 117	I'm on the same boat in regards to using the Water Wetter on both loops. I also am using the 160F tstat that came with the Whipple. I dont drive the car much but I did this past weekend to a car show and my IAT was hovering at 140ish while cruising. Ambient was about 110ish as we are in the usual heat wave here in Kansas. __________________ 2018 Camaro, Whipple Charged, RotoFab Big Gulp, Katech 103mm, LT4 Fueling w/ JMS BAP, GPI Drop in Rods and Pistons, Custom Cam, Ported Heads, Kooks LTHs w/ Green Cats and Mid Pipes, Corsa Extreme Mufflers, DSS Driveshaft & CV Shafts, Might Mouse Catch Can, Circle D T.C. #Team GPI

07-15-2019, 07:09 PM	#12
Nmolina9239 Drives: 2018 2SS Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Niverville, NY Posts: 117	What is considered too high or bad though? I honestly haven't logged a tune to specifically eye that but I will go back and look at some old ones. Is too high when timing is being pulled back? __________________ 2018 Camaro, Whipple Charged, RotoFab Big Gulp, Katech 103mm, LT4 Fueling w/ JMS BAP, GPI Drop in Rods and Pistons, Custom Cam, Ported Heads, Kooks LTHs w/ Green Cats and Mid Pipes, Corsa Extreme Mufflers, DSS Driveshaft & CV Shafts, Might Mouse Catch Can, Circle D T.C. #Team GPI

07-16-2019, 07:24 PM	#14
Nmolina9239 Drives: 2018 2SS Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Niverville, NY Posts: 117	Hey Ted, I am not having any issues with the vehicle at all. I was more just trying to get educated on whats considered good versus bad. __________________ 2018 Camaro, Whipple Charged, RotoFab Big Gulp, Katech 103mm, LT4 Fueling w/ JMS BAP, GPI Drop in Rods and Pistons, Custom Cam, Ported Heads, Kooks LTHs w/ Green Cats and Mid Pipes, Corsa Extreme Mufflers, DSS Driveshaft & CV Shafts, Might Mouse Catch Can, Circle D T.C. #Team GPI

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