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You could strap this on and just make some more power but the majority of people buying this blower likely have bigger plans than that. This blower will make more power and more efficiently while raising the limits of the power on tap.
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10-12 hours install? Is that correct ?
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08-17-2018, 11:44 AM | #34 |
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Maggie all day. The whipple is bigger and thats the only plus. Magnuson makes a more efficient blower. I've yet to see a Whipple car that blew me away with the numbers for the size of the blower and the heat that they seem to create.
It will all boil down to desired power level and intended use but we have seen better results and lower IAT's with the Magnuson blowers. All the best, Jared |
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08-19-2018, 01:48 AM | #38 |
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I do not wrench nor am I mechanically inclined. I will think on it Camaro SS 10 to 12 hours . May I ask why insulation is so long on the ZL1?
I assumed changing out blowers was a straightforward process.
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If I may, I think he was saying that he'd like to see a comparo of the stock blower with headers, CAI, and a lower or upper pulley vs the 2.3L blower with the same mods. But no E85 and no meth. Just tune on 93 octane. I too would like to see what those results would be and how the two blowers would compare. I think the reason he wants to see such a comparison is to see if the 2.3 really is making more HP over the stock blower when both are modded. That way we can decide if it is worth the money to buy the 2.3L blower or just mod the stock blower. If the 2.3L blower needs cam and ported heads to really shine and if a person is not really interested in doing all that then the stock blower might be enough.
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That's what I meant JDP! The most power from a stock Lt4(NO PORTING) with either an upper or lower or combo of the 2 vs. the most power from the Maggi running out of timing or fuel however you want to word it.. both on 93 Both setups should have: 1. Headers 2. Stock TB porting like a Mamo is ok 3. CAI 4. Low side / aux pump Neither setup can have: 1. Port heads or blower 2. larger TB no 102mm 3. No Meth 4. No e85, e60, e50 ect.. Torco I just got thru watching the Whipple by redline wasn't impressed.. But I'm not sure how much more tuning it could have, if pulley swap was possible and so on.. It was an Auto Cadi and I'm a manual zl1 so, a M6 should read higher I assume.. right now I sit at 650 rwhp and 620 TQ w a lower, CAI, TM TB, and TSP headers..
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Whipple vs Magnuson - Heat & Gas Mileage
Both of these Superchargers move large quantities of air. However, there is one major difference between the two.
The Whipple, because it is a "Screw" type of Positive Displacement Supercharger, it "Compresses" the air with-in the Supercharger before it enters the intake manifold and when you compress air you also heat the air in the process of 'Compressing" it. This requires a substantially more robust charge air cooling system especially when doing any more lengthy high work load events or usage. The Magnuson, because it is basically a modified "Roots" type of Supercharger that just moves the air thru the Supercharger. It does not compress the air with-in the Supercharger, but compresses the air against the "Back Side of the Closed Intake Valve". This by comparison to the "Screw" type of Supercharger introduces substantially less Heat into the charge air. This also requires a relatively smaller charge air cooling system which makes the modified "Roots" type of Supercharger more suitable for more lengthy high work load events because the heat produced is, practically speaking, more manageable than the "Screw" type of Supercharger. would be in this case. An additional advantage of the Magnuson Supercharger is the "Equalizing Valve" which substantially reduces the amount of HP needed to rotate the Rotor assembly, because the pressure is equalized above and below the Rotors during Cruising. This translates into better gas mileage in town and on the highway under light work loads than the "Screw" type of Supercharger is capable of. |
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